• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The IDF is not an individual. The US provides arms to Israeli soldiers just as Sweden provides arms to American civilians. The US is not identifying individual soldiers who have killed Palestinians.

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      2 months ago

      Are we suggesting IDF soldiers are unaccountable to the IDF or Israel? Are we suggesting the Israeli genocide is just a bunch of rogue Israeli civilians acting on their own volition?

      What a weird line of defense, comparing war crimes committed by a nation’s military to mass shootings committed by unaffiliated civilian terrorists acting on their own.

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        2 months ago

        I’m suggesting that the one responsible for a killing is the one who pulled the trigger. Or in the case of the military, the one who gave the order.

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          2 months ago

          “the one responsible is […] the one who gave the order”

          ok so back to your analogy, the US would be handing guns and ammunition the ‘one responsible’, then?

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            2 months ago

            In the same sense that Sweden gave weapons to those responsible for Columbine.

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              2 months ago

              Lmao, only if Sweden is knowingly handing weapons to someone who is currently slaughtering children.

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                2 months ago

                Most soldiers in the IDF have not killed anyone. The US is not seeking out those who have in order to arm them.

                It is providing weapons to a group, knowing that some of the people in that group might use the weapons to kill. Which is also what Sweden is doing.

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                  2 months ago

                  “the one responsible is […] the one who gave the order”

                  You already said responsibility sits further up the chain than individual soldiers. If “the one who gave the order” is responsible for the genocide, then the US is handing guns and bullets directly to those people (the ones who are giving the orders).

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                    2 months ago

                    Yes, like I said the US is arming people who are responsible for killing as well as people who are not responsible. Which is also what Sweden is doing.

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                  2 months ago

                  Most soldiers in the IDF have not killed anyone.

                  We, as Americans, are gonna have to find this “Genocide Georg” who should not have been counted.

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                    2 months ago

                    There are about 40K Gazan casualties but over 600K IDF soldiers including reserves. So the vast majority of soldiers have not killed anyone.