• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Americans are murdering schoolchildren and Sweden is arming Americans.

    Not just Sweden. Glocks are pretty popular too. So are H&K. We can add Germany and Austria to the list of countries arming murderers.

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      22 days ago

      LMAO, you’re trying to abdicate the IDF and Israel from guilt by treating the genocide like it’s a rouge group a soldiers disobeying orders and going on a murder spree, and I’m telling you it’s exactly the nation of Israel that is guilty of committing genocide. In fact, genocide is definitionally systematic, not individualistic.

      Put another way:

      • The columbine shooter committed murder, and is a subset of Americans
      • Israel is committing genocide, and Israel is a superset of all IDF soldiers

      In one case, the object of the crime (the guilty party) is an individual, and in the other case, the object of the crime is the group, and the individuals are subjects of the group. You wouldn’t say “Americans committed a mass shooting”, because mass shootings are something that is done by individuals, just like how genocides are something that is done by a group.

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        22 days ago

        OK. I would say American police systematically kill American Black people. The police are armed by Glock and H&K.

        So if America is responsible for the death of Palestinians, then Germany and Austria are responsible for the death of American Black people.

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          22 days ago

          Lol, whoa, are Austria and Germany providing lethal aid to American pigs?!

          I had no idea they were giving american police $12.5 Billion in bombs and missiles since the start of their active bombing campaign against POC.

          Huge if true!

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            22 days ago

            are Austria and Germany providing lethal aid

            Yes, they provide guns to American police officers.

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                22 days ago

                You think guns aren’t lethal? Or you think Austria doesn’t make Glocks?

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                  22 days ago

                  I think providing a nationstate bombs and missiles (as aid) is so distinct from a police department purchasing guns from a foreign company that the comparison can’t even be taken seriously

                  Not to mention at all the obsurdity of comparing targeted police brutality against POC and an apartheid state systematically killing and forcibly relocating 5.04 million Palestinians from their home.

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                    22 days ago

                    Bombs and guns are both capable of killing. I don’t see why the US should be responsible for Palestinians killed with US made bombs if Austria is not responsible for Americans killed with Austrian made guns.

                    Do you think moral responsibility depends on the size of the explosion? That’s hard to take seriously. So if the US only provided guns to Israel, that would be OK?