The Bell Riots start on Sunday. Stay safe out there!
<Anyone coming from /c/all please note this is a joke post for an in universe Star Trek event. Remain Calm.>
Meanwhile, in the real 2024, a lot of homeless people would probably prefer being put into a sanctuary district than having their very existence made illegal and cops either clearing them out or arresting them wherever they went.
When the actual future dystopia is worse than the one that writers came up with.
Kevin Spacey is a monster and I hate him like Weinstein, but he has one of the most salient moments on Colbert’s Late Show from eight years ago (after the Trump joke):
Shit man they had universal healthcare in Star Trek’s 2024. In Star Trek’s 2024 the tech billionaire decided to help the homeless. We’re doing worse in the real world than what Star Trek depicted as being near the absolute nadir of human society.
this is exactly like saying homeless people would rather go to prison than be homeless.
Not even close to saying that. I think you need to look at what SCOTUS recently ruled about what cities can do with homeless people. Because sanctuary districts would be kinder.
you cant leave a sanctuary district, thats a prison, why would anybody want to go there? theres three main ways you end up there, you are too poor, your caught sleeping on the streets, or you have mental problems and cant afford the healthcare.
inside the sanctuarys you have no guarantee for housing, no way to get a job, increased gang activity, more mentally unstable people, food shortages, how is that any better than living on the streets in our world?
the rulings from the scotus is the first step to sanctuary districts my friend, and if you think that locking poor people in cages is kind, then you have a funny definition of kindness.
I don’t think you understand the difference between “kinder” and “kindness.”
Spitting in someone’s face is kinder than stabbing them in the throat. Does that mean spitting in their face is kindness?
if you say something is kinder, then it must pass the bar of being kind first. I would say none of the things being described, (spitting , stabbing, and locking people away) counts as kind in the first place
No, that’s not how language works.
You can say that flies are smarter than bacteria despite neither being smart.
You can say that Bob is uglier than Dave when neither Bob nor Dave are ugly.
And I’ve already made it clear to you that I was not suggesting either was kind, so I’m not sure why you’re arguing this with me as if I were.
you can say bob is uglier than Dave sure, but if it’s not true then it means nothing, similarly if you call something unkind kind, then that also means nothing. you said that sanctuary districts would be kinder, in order to be kinder they must first be kind, so yes you did say sanctuary districts are kind.
I’ll riot a bit just to be safe.
As a treat
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The fact that even when trying to be dystopian as fuck, depressingly bad, showcasing the worst decisions that the more aggressive (and let’s be honest, savage by comparison) people of the past, they give humanity WAY too much credit.
Not a chance in hell anyone would create special areas for homeless people unless there were some ulterior motive. Because even though the cost of housing and programs to educate, therapy to help with any issues stemming from homelessness or mental disorders (including many that you will likely get just from being homeless that never showed up before) and substance abuse problems (that again, likely were not present pre-homelessness) is WAY lower than what we pay to “deal with it” the way we do, everyone just kind of seems okay with how the homeless get treated.
And when you are watching 27 different angles of a bunch of people filming cops going around beating homeless people and dragging out of tents by their hair in order to burn them down with all the possessions inside, and nobody fucking lifts a finger to help those being opressed, it really winks in that maybe we don’t deserve to make it past the bell riots.
Because even the shitty oppressive government of a fictional universe where most governments are completely changed, gone or barely dangling by a thread is a hell of a lot better than the shit we’re stuck with.
I feel like DS9 imagined a 2024 where liberals had morphed into champagne socialists, providing a social safety net to assuage guilt for their treatment of the people disadvantaged by society but keeping them out of sight. In reality the liberal parties stymie the left and work to keep government moving to the right so that the basic safety net never gets implemented. Instead we have neoliberals and party liners still obsessed with reaching across the aisle and shaking hands with those who would advocate for a ‘final solution’ to homelessness before voting to feed them. Thats not just America, look at Macron too.
There’s assuming the percentage of homeless people is not threatening to create a rebellion. Increase the number to tipping point like 30% of all people and it will make sense.
By the way that’s the goal of capitalism in a round about way - accumulate more money by fewer people. And it’s getting it’s way.
I’m heading up to the mountains for camping this weekend, just to be safe.
Remember to bring your emergency comms system. The mountains can be treacherous.
I thought it was super easy in the future
Just rip it out of the bulkhead and push it up the mountain.
Me too. I plan to make some coffee and watch the world burn.
I do like my coffee hot…
And all Japan gets on Sunday is a lousy typhoon.
You could always move to (northern)Tohoku… not as many jobs but at least the typhoons and quakes are rare.
If we get a star trec future out of it… I say it’s worth it
That’s the attitude we want around here!
Honestly, the end justifying all means is an attitude I’d expect from lemmygrad, not from here. I know, that’s not how you put it, but think about it that way
“The ends justify the means” is an argument often used by people that know the thing that they’re doing is pretty awful, and are trying to come up with some kind of hand waving justification.
But as a thought process it isn’t bad in and of itself. Every time you undergo surgery it’s because the ends justify the means.
It could be more favorably expressed as “short-term pain, long-term gain”.
Inaction is being complicit especially when it comes to fighting oppression.
And power structures reproduce themselves. Unity of means and ends is crucial when you don’t want to just build a new oppressive system
I shall not remain calm!
i heard this image
God dammit, I lost my ocarina!
