when asked to share your fav text/writing/blog/etc. on anarchy or anarchist principals, historical or modern, what do you send and why?

  • occultist8128@infosec.pub
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    5 months ago

    i was thinking the same way as the Unabomber manifesto even before i read it, and then i became more interested in anarchism and found that manifesto. technology can be bad if it is monopolized by big tech companies, and its uncontrolled use is bad for the environment.

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      5 months ago

      As already pointed out Ted has highly problematic views that should also be present in his Manisfesto. There are probably anarchist text with similar perspectives that are not so full of bigotry. I would suggest looking into anti civ or other technology critical text on the anarchist library.

      Besides that a person that I find very inspiring sometimes mentions the Unabomber and they seemed to be able to get atleast thought provoking perspextives put the Kaczynskis work.

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        5 months ago

        yes but i’m not a fan of him personally… if someone likes justin bieber songs doesn’t mean that the person also likes justin bieber. that manifesto is kinda interesting for me to get more into anarchism since the points there are similar to anarchist principal imo. thanks for the reference tho :]

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        1 month ago

        I think they are more likely to be a fash imo. They are trying to normalize a reactionary and far right texts. Fascists love to use the Unabomber to normalize reactionary ideology in leftist circles. And they always do that shit of trying to separate art from the artist like what the commentor is doing

        Edit: Check their profile, they are conservative. Their username is occultist. They like the Unabomber Manifesto. The dude is a fascist not a fed.

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        5 months ago

        Hey sorry but why are you reacting like that? Calling someone a cop in anarchist circles is a really heavy accusation and should only be done with actual proof. I also think we should own the fact that anarchists have different or sometimes stupid opinions. Othering people that we dont agree with does not foster an environment where people discuss openly and feel comfortable stating their views or asking questions.

        Your second comment seems way better because it gives the person you are responding to and all other readers a chance to educate themselves.

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          1 month ago

          I do not think it is unreasonable of the person to call this out. Liking the Unabomber’s manifesto and saying its their favorite “anarchist” text is a huge red flag. The person being a fed or fash is entirely a realistic concern. Fascists use this strategy all the time. They try to normalize reactionary and far right texts by coming into circles and trying to relate the texts to people and cover their asses by play “separate the art from the artist card.” Like what the person is doing by saying they don’t like Ted but like his work. That is fascist tactics 101. Feds do similar stuff but in an effort to cause division and conflict. I think its less likely the commentor is a fed, and more likely they are a fash.

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          5 months ago

          chill that’s fine, i just don’t get it why sometimes people call other people fed. at least show an argument why my comment is stupid lol

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        5 months ago

        wtf do u mean 😭 as an asian i don’t get it when people on the internet saying “fed” things. OP asked so i tell mine, i found anarchism like 2 years ago cuz i was interested learning philosophy from my lectures.

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          5 months ago

          I don’t believe you, but just in case.

          https://www.dailydot.com/debug/far-right-unabomber/

          He was a conservative, a racist, a sexist, and an all around nutbag. He’s a relentlessly bigoted primitivist, not an anarchist as the word means to anarchists, only in the sense that the establishment uses the term as a boogeyman.

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            5 months ago

            i’m not a fan of him personally, i just like his text. the question is all fav text/blog/writings, not fav person. i know the Unabomber manifesto doesn’t represent anarchism totally but the points inside similar to anarchist principal imo.

            • Comrade Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Its an insanely problematic text with some good points. There are actual anarchist writings that take the few good ideas Ted had and ditches all the problematic stuff. Anyone who says the Unabomber Manifesto is there favorite or similar is a huge red flag. It should not be compared to anarchist ideology. This is not a separate the art from the artist situation because Ted’s shittiness is baked deep into the art itself. I also caution against anarcho-primitivist writings and ideology (the closest anarchist ideology to the Unabomber’s) because those that believe that society at large should be anarcho-primitivist is insanely ableist (because without modern medicine and technology a lot of disabled people would either die or live painful lives). Anarcho-primitivists who just want to practice it individually are fine though.