supporting a ceasefire does not at all mean you’re pro-palestine. most EU countries voted for the UN deal months and months before all while supporting israel. plenty of zionists want a conditional deal where israel’s hostages are returned and palestine’s colonial subjugation and apartheid continue, just not as overtly.
found a poll from this week that 60% of americans support continuing military aid to israel. and you can’t assume the 40% against it are against it on principled grounds, many of them are simply isolationists who don’t want their taxpayer money going to other countries
I don’t disagree and like I said in my post: we do indeed suck. I just want to push back slightly because looking at the numbers I think reality bears out more that Americans are deeply confused and propagandized. Its fair to say that a lot of people have arrived at the right conclusion for all the wrong reasons and I’m all down with throwing out a “death to amerikkka” as we feel it…but I also think the more important takeaway to have in this situation is that the feelings of the American public are essentially immaterial here. The empire doesn’t care.
supporting a ceasefire does not at all mean you’re pro-palestine. most EU countries voted for the UN deal months and months before all while supporting israel. plenty of zionists want a conditional deal where israel’s hostages are returned and palestine’s colonial subjugation and apartheid continue, just not as overtly.
found a poll from this week that 60% of americans support continuing military aid to israel. and you can’t assume the 40% against it are against it on principled grounds, many of them are simply isolationists who don’t want their taxpayer money going to other countries
I don’t disagree and like I said in my post: we do indeed suck. I just want to push back slightly because looking at the numbers I think reality bears out more that Americans are deeply confused and propagandized. Its fair to say that a lot of people have arrived at the right conclusion for all the wrong reasons and I’m all down with throwing out a “death to amerikkka” as we feel it…but I also think the more important takeaway to have in this situation is that the feelings of the American public are essentially immaterial here. The empire doesn’t care.
I just want to comment that polls don’t mean that much since the people they’re polling are fed lies.
I don’t necessarily disagree entirely, but you should give Masses, Elites, and Rebels a read. Sorry for the necro post.