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      She was likely a victim of the maga extremism indoctrination and social media, this is a bit distasteful

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        suuure. she was the victim… the traitor killed while trying smash into the Capitol Building and overthrow the government…

        /S

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        Every Nazi is a victim of extremism indoctrination. They don’t get a pass for that. She was a domestic enemy to the United States and died attacking our country. She deserves zero respect.

        The world became a slightly better place when she died.

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        “Just following orders” is not an excuse no matter how it’s veiled.

        She took part in a violent insurrection with the ultimate goal of overturning an election and destroying democracy.

        She had every opportunity to no being a cesspool of bigotry, racism and fascist supporter. Instead she chose at every option to continue her path.

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        To be a victim of maga extremism, you must already be bigoted enough to think that it is a reasonable opinion to have to want black and LGBT people to die. She deserved what she got.

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          Wasn’t it more conspiracies about democracy being compromised?

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        idk how else to downplay supporting trump at this point.

        public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people since polite conversation clearly doesn’t work once you put the red hat on. what alternatives do you suggest? 🙂

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          public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people

          Wait, really? I know liberals tend to like weird pseudo-pacifism, but have y’all really committed so hard to it that you think “public shaming” is our last line of defense?

          Get armed, and get trained. You may end up needing it. *We* may end up needing it.

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            get armed and get trained? how will that convince a trump voter to reject his ideology? doesn’t make any sense to me tbh

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              Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted your usage of “last line of defense”?

              These aren’t regular conservatives that we’re dealing with. MAGA is a fascist movement. The MO of fascists is to gain and hold power for their in-group by *any means necessary*. While it should never be our first option, we need to be willing and able to violently resist them, because they sure as hell don’t have any qualms about violently subjugating us.

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              Youre not going to convince a fascist not to be a fascist by making them feel bad about it. If that was possible, there’d be no communists.

              Organising in your community, your workplace, and looking after yourself is what i think our friend was getting at

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        Fascists aren’t victims of the ideology they adopted, other people are. Good riddance to every dead fascist.

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        You’re so right, she obviously doesn’t deserve to be derided, we should show her love and support because she died, it wasn’t her fault she was indoctrinated like this.

        For good measure, let’s posthumously pardon the Nazis that murdered hundreds or thousands of people and were later killed when their camps were taken. They were just victims of the Nazi extremism indoctrination and media, it’s a bit distasteful that people still slander them /s

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          Difference is she didn’t kill anybody that we know of

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        The sexualisation and humiliation of a person who cant object or consent is whats getting me.

        people will excuse themselves of a lot when they don’t like someone.

        I abaolutely do not care that she died, and her politics cant be handwaved away with ‘she was indoctrinated’, which would also equate to her having no agency. She knew what she was doing.

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    What the hell makes you think that lady is in heaven? Assuming an even exists, I’m pretty sure her reservation got switched to a different establishment.

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      Could be one and not the other. Could be after you die you become a happy sentient green baby poo only to get wiped away. Could be good things after tho

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        This is most likely to try to deflect from him saying that he had every right to interfere with the election since he’s currently facing a criminal trial for interfering with the election.

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          That was actually the most recent interview. He said that after admitting to election interference.

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    I’m lost. Is Babbitt not the chick who cut her abusive husband’s dick off to great media attention in the 90s? (Weird AL put it in a song fucking legend). What does this have to do with Tonald Drump?

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      No Ashli Babbitt was the one person who was killed by police while attempting to overthrow the US Government on January 6th, 2021

      Also fun fact: Conservative “Activist” group Judicial Watch filed a wrongful death lawsuit on her behalf earlier this year, which in my opinion spits in the face of all actual victims of police brutality.

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      You are thinking of Lorena Bobbitt.

      That was my first thought too! This meme is about the dumbass who go herself shot during the failed Jan 6th coup.

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      You described Lorena Bobbitt more or less. Ashli Babbitt was a Jan 6 rioter (at the u.s. capitol) shot by police.

      Fuck this timeline.

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      I think you’re overlooking the potential.

      I don’t give up on anybody because they all have the potential to have their Ebenezer Scrooge moment and change until they no longer have any moments.

      The potential for Ashlii Babbitt to become a good and upstanding contributing member of society was lost because of her blind following of the orange turd.

      That is her fault. It’s still a sad thing.

      I feel bad for her but I feel worse for the person who felt like they had no other choice but to shoot that woman, and I am glad that it only took one bullet to stop the insurrection.

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          This guy famously just provides reputation rehab for KKK members.

          He doesn’t talk Klansmen out of their hateful ways. He absolves them on behalf of Black people so they can pretend to be reformed and get jobs again. He’s doing them a service, and they frequently pay him for it.

          It’s like the real life version of the “With Apologies to Jesse Jackson” episode of South Park, where Randy says the N-word on TV, and expects the world to forgive him after he literally kisses Jesse Jackson’s ass as an apology. (Spoiler: this doesn’t work)

          I’m not a fan of letting fascists take off their uniforms and return to normal life like they didn’t do anything. I’m more of an Inglorious Basterds kinda guy…

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            Interesting, this is the first I’ve heard of the “reputation rehab” angle on the guy. Do you have any further reading you could link me to?

            Rather than going full Inglorious Basterds, I think it’s important to have both “carrot” and “stick” options for these people. It doesn’t really do us any good if there’s no way to come back from having been involved in hate groups. Just make sure to keep the Richard Spencer treatment available, to provide them some motivation to get their heads right.