• BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    717·
    2 个月前

    That and it’s a sequel to a move made in 1988. It was always destined to be a soulless nostalgia cash grab.

    • CitizenKong@lemmy.worldEnglish
      501·
      2 个月前

      Eh, it’s alright for what it is. It’s a sequel that’s mostly enjoyable and entertaining. And feels like classic Burton through and through. Catherine O’Hara and Michael Keaton are also obviously having a lot of fun.

    • Thatuserguy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      2 个月前

      Like everyone else said, doesn’t beat the original, but it was fun for what it was. Certainly kept a lot of the same spirit, which is more than I can say for a lot of these soulless reboot/sequel cash grabs these days

    • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      111·
      2 个月前

      Meh it was enjoyable enough. It’s certainly not overtaking the original as the better, but it was a fine hour and a half our whatever.

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
      31·
      2 个月前

      I didn’t enjoy it much, but I had a headache at the time, and the three other people with me had a blast, so I think it’s probably not bad.

    • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 个月前

      I was pleasantly surprised. I went and saw it with my mother since the original was one of her favorites to watch with me growing up. She was actually more critical of it than I was, which doesn’t happen very often, but at the same time I think she had higher expectations than I did. (Mine were not very high)

  • oni@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    2 个月前

    lmao, not an english native speaker here. What would be, in english language, the difference between poisonous and venomous? Lifting aside the “pois” and the “ven”.

    • Melochar @lemmy.worldEnglish
      69·
      2 个月前

      Poisonous: will make you sick if you eat it. Venomous: will make you sick if it bites or stings you.

    • Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      28·
      2 个月前

      Not native English speaking neither but afaik:

      poisonous: you die if you eat it

      Venomous: you die if it bites you

    • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
      8·
      2 个月前

      I don’t speak Spanish, but just looking at the alternative options Google Translate provides when you only input a single word, it’s possible that “tóxico” might be a clearer translation of “poisonous”.

      • Canadian_Cabinet @lemmy.caEnglish
        7·
        2 个月前

        Tóxico is more or less analogous to toxic in English, it sounds normal to use with something like a chemical but weird with an animal

    • ninja@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 个月前

      Poisons are ingested where as venoms are injected.

      If you bite (or drink, etc.) it it’s poison. If it bites (or stings, etc.) you it’s venom.

    • Canadian_Cabinet @lemmy.caEnglish
      5·
      2 个月前

      Hace un par de días teníamos esta misma discusión aquí, básicamente «poison» es si lo tocas y mueres. «Venom» es si te muerde y mueres. En español es más simple con veneno jaja

      • captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        2 个月前

        Español cuenta también con “Ponzoñoso” (Poisonous ) para poder diferenciar. Pero en si, sólo son sinónimos y se utilizan igual.

      • oni@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        Recalco en que no soy angloparlante porque busqué primero en un diccionario en inglés y aparecen como sinónimos, entonces para sacarme completamente de dudas, pregunto a angloparlantes, pero sigo en la misma situación

      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipEnglish
        54·
        2 个月前

        Keep in mind that poisonous and venomous are only different in a scientific context. In regular conversation people use them to mean the same thing (or at least they use poisonous to mean both-- venomous is less used in casual contexts)

    • workerONE@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      2 个月前

      I was told that if something dies from poison and you eat it then it is dangerous. But if something dies from venom and you eat it you will be okay.

    • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      In Portuguese we have the word “venenoso” for “poisonous” and “peçonhento” for “venomous” (i.e. something with a “peçonha”, any toxin substance produced and injected on another animal). But we often use “peçonhento” e “venenoso” interchangeably (e.g. “cobra venenosa”).

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
    22·
    2 个月前

    If you kill a snake and decide to chew on the venom glands, would they be considered poisonous or venomous?

    • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
      5·
      2 个月前

      With the sucking venom out of a bite memes they always warned that you needed good mouth health as the venom getting into your blood through a cut or sore would be dangerous, suggesting that venom could be safely ingested

      Our digestive system is pretty good at talking apart proteins

      • Godnroc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        It’s also very good at absorbing things directly into our blood streams. I think sucking on venom is a good way to poison yourself.

        • chaogomu@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          2 个月前

          Except the truth is that no, almost every venom is safe to ingest. Provided you don’t have any cuts in your mouth or throat.

          Snakes are not immune to their own venom. They don’t need to be, because their stomach acid can break it down.

          As can ours.

        • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
          3·
          2 个月前

          We have proteins in our diets that our body could use intact, however our digestion breaks those down and we absorb the amino acids and rebuild the needed proteins.

          No protein survives digestion. It’s really quite surprising that some prions do survive and fuck us up

    • xenoclast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 个月前

      Well. I know that they’re gonna consider you both stupid and dead… but yeah… The corner would have a tough time

  • Ravi@feddit.orgEnglish
    232·
    2 个月前

    Just watch the german version, where both translates to “giftig”. Who cares if it needs to bite you or if you need to bite it, if it contains poison/venom just stay away from it.

    • Heavybell@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      I remember hearing on QI about a snake that eats a poisonous frog in order to become poisonous itself. Don’t think it was Australian but who knows.

  • pH3ra@lemmy.mlEnglish
    143·
    2 个月前

    I saw it last night: it’s the worst wet fart of a movie I’ve seen in a long time

      • pH3ra@lemmy.mlEnglish
        132·
        2 个月前

        Story cohesion, justifiable plot, relatable characters, believable dialogues, good montage (there are more frame changes than a fast and furious chase sequence) and in general there is nothing that make this one look like a Tim Burton movie.
        But hey we now have *checks notes* Monica Bellucci, the worst actress the big screen has ever seen…

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          2 个月前

          That sucks. The producers (or directors or someone idfk) have just been charged with making the first screen adaption of one of my favorite ongoing comic series. I’m nervous.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          32·
          2 个月前

          Story cohesion

          In one or two simlpe sentences, summarize the story of the original Beetlejuice film. In just a few words, what is Beetlejuice about?

          But hey we now have checks notes Monica Bellucci, the worst actress the big screen has ever seen…

          May I introduce you to Monique Gabrielle?

          • pH3ra@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            2 个月前

            In one or two simlpe sentences, summarize the story of the original Beetlejuice film.

            Ghost couple tries to shoo away the family who bought their house after they died. The thing gets out of hand when they hire Beetlejuice.

            Why this question, tho?

            • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              2 个月前

              Trying to put the thought in my head into words…Let’s try this: Beetlejuice has an excuse plot like a lot of video games do. The plot is a framework to attach fun and amusing scenes together. It’s an excuse to go to the ghost DMV and to have the dinner and seance and wedding scenes.

              At one point they do have a stated goal of scaring away the Deetzes, but they don’t achieve this goal. They scare off Otho, by making his…suit less trendy? Am I remembering that right? But the Maitlands and Deetzes end up living in harmony, Lydia gets the movie’s victory lap. Beetlejuice is the title character, but he’s really the closest thing the film has to an antagonist.

              Really, the characters and plot don’t matter as much as the series of fun and interesting scenes. That’s why I enjoyed the movie; it’s built more like a haunted house than a feature film. It’s a series of loosely related vignettes. And if those are fun, then mission achieved.

      • pH3ra@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        Nope, as I generally want to be entertained when I spend money and time for a movie.
        I’d lie if I said I expected this to be as good as the first one, but boy was that an understatement…

  • norimee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    2 个月前

    As a non native English speaker, where does toxic fit into the poisonous/venevenomous question?

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
      71·
      2 个月前

      If “poisonous” are parallelograms and “venomous” are trapezoids, “toxic” would be quadrilaterals in general. (Can’t use square/rectangle analogy, because squares are a type of rectangle, and venom/poison is not a type of poison/venom.)

      Aside from that, there aren’t too many rules on “toxic”.

      Poison and venom will both cause serious acute injury with the possibility of immediate death. Both can be considered “toxic”.

      Just to be confusing, “poison” and “poisoning” can have substantially different connotations. For example, the heavy metal “lead” would not normally* be considered a “poison”. Lead would generally be considered “toxic”.

      But, repeated exposure to lead to the point that it causes physical symptoms is referred to as “lead poisoning”.

      Same thing with mercury: it would be considered “toxic”; it wouldn’t normally* be considered a poison. But repeated exposure to mercury would be considered “mercury poisoning”.

      (* If a third party were to deliberately introduce lead or mercury into the body of an individual, the substance would then be considered a “poison”.)

      • norimee@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 个月前

        Thank you for your thorough explanation.

        It’s always a bit confusing when your language has one word for something another language makes distinctions within.

        • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          There is a lot of pedantry in English despite there being no central governing body over the language like French has.

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
            2·
            2 个月前

            Yep!

            Personally, I’m deprecating “its”.

            The “its/it’s” distinction requires violation of the apostrophe-s rule for possessive forms. This exception to that rule is entirely arbitrary. The meaning is never ambiguous in context; the distinction exists solely to enable pedantry and confuse spell checkers.

            So, English will be better off by retiring “its”, relegating it to the trash heap along with “chuse”.

            “It’s” is now a homonym. Both the contraction rules and the possessive rules for apostrophe-s construction are maintained, and the only people who will cry about it are English teachers and other worthless pedants.

            I have spoken.

    • ulterno@lemmy.kde.socialEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      Toxic can be used to refer to something that will slowly damage the body in some way.
      e.g. tobacco smoke, which doesn’t kill you right away, but slowly turns you into a zombie, by destroying your mental ability and cause faster ageing.
      Another, is Lead (Pb), which lead to the destruction of the Roman empire.

  • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    2 个月前

    It’s a common mistake, so isn’t a character in a movie making it realistic? Wouldn’t it be out of character for many characters to have perfect English?

    • BigBananaDealer@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      it only takes 1 flaw to turn a movie from a 10/10 to a 0/10. this is one such example

      sigh guess us real kinophiles must fend for ourselves

      • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        2 个月前

        May point is that it might be a mistake of the character, intended by the writers, not a mistake by the writers.

  • nek0d3r@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 个月前

    I literally thought the correction in my head while in the theater. It took some restraint to not mention anything to my partner lol

    • chaogomu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 个月前

      It’s not a remake. It’s a sequel with the same director and writing team as the first one.

      It also has a few truly disturbing scenes.

    • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      2 个月前

      Yes and no. Soulless cash grabs are unwatchable. But things like The Fly, dawn of the dead, the mummy, Scarface…10/10

    • Bruhh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      53·
      2 个月前

      The first one isn’t exactly watchable either. Beetlejuice is in it for 20 min of the whole movie? He’s not the main character, sure but you’d think the titular character would have more screen time.

  • kubica@fedia.io
    3·
    2 个月前

    Maybe you need to dub it from english to english and take the chance to fix it.

  • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    12·
    2 个月前

    Well Astrid does kill her self with said snakes so I feel like it evens itself out.

  • SomeGuy69@lemmy.worldEnglish
    46·
    2 个月前

    Aside of the obvious meme joke. Well, language eveolves, maybe the distinction isn’t that important any more. Other languages don’t have it and usually you add more context to something. Also when was the last time you tried to eat an unknown animal? Or where in a situation, where you had to decide if the dangerous looking animal is only supposed to be uneatable instead of venomous?

    • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 个月前

      as much as i believe languages are living tools, cannot be constrained by rules, and will evolve no matter how much old timers complain

      if you tell me about a “venomous mushroom” I’ll freak out at the possibility of such a being existing faster than you can explain how you don’t really see a reason for the distinction between venomous and poisonous and that other languages don’t even have it

    • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 个月前

      Tbh I feel like it’s a very important distinction . There are poisonous things that aren’t harmful unless ingested. However something that is venomous is probably ready to attack if approached

      • SomeGuy69@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 个月前

        It’s kind of funny, because in other languages it doesn’t use this distinction and people don’t eat poisonous mushrooms because someone called them venomous by accident, or the other way around with a venomous animal.

    • Default_DefectEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      I’m fine with language naturally changing over time as it does, but I’m not a big fan of people gleefully cheering on as words lose meaning because people can’t handle being corrected about the current meaning/intent of words.