This will be their narrative now.
Don’t be like Hannity. If you find yourself lying to support your view, change your view.
But then how will I support my view that I’m the world’s greatest lover?
I would maybe have believe “in Japan” squid Man, don’t be greedy.
That settles it. There’s only one way to prove this: take off your pants and bend over.
Do I look like several salary men on a train with a funnel to you?
…yes?
A great eye and all those soft tentacles what a catch you are. World’s greatest!
Sorry, we all have to make sacrifices.
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Like, isn’t he alive? Can’t someone ask him what his motives were?
Can’t someone ask him what his motives were?
You assume the FBI, secret service, and every other 3 letter agency who can get access to his cell aren’t doing exactly that?
Given his biography, I would expect a string of conspiracy laden answers and generally incoherent explanations, though.
But isn’t that the most honest answer. Some form of mania. The GOP want us to live in a world where only democrats can ignite extremist violent outbursts. All while courting extremists. If the democrats rhetoric makes people violent then surely the GOPs rhetoric will do the same?
I dunno. I’m trying to apply logic to an illogical argument. So much of the time we should just shut these people off and work are hardest to deplatform them rather then just fact checking. It’s a type of pollution, which is fine in small doses, but it’s destroying the public square. That and all the shameless advertisments.
Do we even know he wanted to hurt Trump in the first place? He made no attempt at attacking him, he was just hiding with a weapon. Which might have been in order to protect Trump from assassins as far as we know. Did anyone ask?
Seems like we all went to our default internet sleuthing because the gunman is always dead. Maybe, like, someone could check in on him. I’m pretty sure it’s legal and such. Might need like permission but the dude still has rights until his trails complete.
His dream ticket was Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy. He was not a Democrat.
That too, but more importantly, he wasn’t a registered Democrat. Which is what makes you a Democrat.
That’s really a terrible way to make that assessment. I’m registered as a Republican in my state so I can vote in their primary, but that doesn’t reflect who I actually support.
How do you think the parties count their numbers?
That’s moderately useful for statistics purposes, but that’s all. It does not mean every individual person who registers as Republican believes in Republican values and votes for Republicans. Nor is it a complete list, plenty of states don’t require registration for primaries so there are lots of people who don’t bother declaring either way.
Then how do you define whether or not someone is a Democrat? Because Hannity insists this guy is one.
I personally prefer the idea that democrats and republicans are elected party members and party officials and that voters are Americans, who can choose to support any of (or none of) these independent organizations. In the same way that I am not a Seattle Kraken.
(ETA: also, you can track a direct line of interest in treating politics like a team sport and what Hannity is trying to do, so literally as far away from that as you can get is what I’m talking about.)
Then Hannity was lying. The assassin was not a Democrat.
The same way I define if someone is gay, christian, or whatever other personal label, I ask them. If that’s not an option, I’m not going to make a judgement based on random shit.
This guy was a complicated person who doesn’t seem to strongly identify with either party, obviously Hannity is full of shit, but that doesn’t mean we should lose sight of nuance in our reality.
Have you considered not doing that? Considering that as far as Democratic Party spending is concerned there isn’t a discernable difference between a literal RINO and MAGA.
Living in a deep red state, it’s the only chance I have to cast a vote that matters. Not just the presidency, but most of our state and local politicians are decided in the Republican primary. Half the positions I’m talking about literally run unopposed in the general election. So I’m going to keep voting for the lesser evil and doing what I can where I live.
Is who you support at any given time your party affiliation?
Read my comments further down. Your party affiliation is whatever you decide it is. There are plenty of reasons to register, vote, or support candidates contrary to party affiliation. That doesn’t make you ‘not party X’ unless you decide you are no longer supporting party X. It seems pretty simple to me.
There isn’t a democratic candidate I wouldn’t vote for. Doesn’t mean I identify as one. Not refuting you but your interpretation is much more complex then assigning based on actual affiliation.
That would be inconvenient to Trump’s claims except that the truth doesn’t matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mobius partisanship
When you train your base to be militant whenever they don’t get their way, you can be assured that you will always be on the chopping block. Look up the French revolution. Or even the fascist uprisings in Germany and Italy. I fighting will happen because you created an environment in which decent is punishable with death.
“descent”; being decent is luckily not punishable with death 😂
edit: I’m an idiot. It’s “dissent”. Going down a cave is not punishable by death either. English is hard.
dissent
Thanks, that was baffling
Does Lemmy have a Confidently Wrong community yet?
I mean, casual observation seems to show that to about 1/2 the electorate, being descent is, or at the very least should be punishable by death.
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Looks like that that dumbass Hannity forgot his tie and acted like an idiot again.
What an idiotic dumbass!
idiotic dumbass
That’s a funny way to spell “intentional liar.”
These fucks are bitching about this while their candidates openly encourage domestic terrorism against Haitians.
Fuck 'em.
they also called the jan 6th people “antifa”.
The funniest possible outcome is if Biden pardoned the dude.
I’m calling “no balls” on Biden pardoning this guy
idk, I’m hoping Dark Brandon makes one final appearance. It should be obvious this guy need mental help, not prison. And that assassination attempts are the logical result of proclaiming you want to be a dictator.
I just saw someone on Gab insist that Thomas Crooks was a registered Democrat…
damn gab still exists??
Unfortunately. I only went there to insult the users. I am not a very good troll.
The undecided voters this year have really been deciding with a vengeance
This latest guy having a ton of Ukraine posts is probably also part of them being like “he’s a democrat”- there’s even a picture of him with blue hair
They have to shelter their base from the truth. ☺️
Person: Votes for Trump. Republicans: A Democrat!
Anyways even though Hannity is LYING about Assassination attempts can DEMOCRATS please tone down Their Rhetoric?
Imo, saying you want to be “dictator day 1” this is the obvious outcome. This is 100% Trump’s own statements that caused this.
Why does everyone in that picture look like they’re standing in front of fun house mirrors?
(I know what the obvious answer is, it just caught me off guard.)
Isn’t this new guy that was arrested a Democrat?
The first one wasn’t iirc so Hannity is full of it, but this attack has legs once they get the wording ‘right’. Assholes (Hannity + Assassin).
Expressing support for Biden and Harris equals Democrat. You’ve heard it here first, folks!
Pictured- Democrat:
He donated money to the Democratic party 19x since 2019
Edit: citation
You in another comment:
Is he a Democrat or a registered independent? Make up your mind.
Lol!
You mess with the Squid, you get the tentacles!
There is no ‘make up your mind’. There is only a building of evidence. Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…
In the meantime, many people register into a party falsely to do things like manipulate primary votes and such. A common attack vector for the first would-be assassin as I recall. To say “he is or isn’t” is pretty much in the eye of the beholder and we’re discussing points undecideds will consider relevant.
My mind is currently leaning to ‘way too many people will think he is a Democrat for this to be good for Democrats’.
This you?
So, can you answer your question? Your question was not about what people will think. Your question was whether or not he was a Democrat.
Is he a Democrat?
I’m no longer as certain as I was, but 19 donations over 5 years is a strong argument making me think he is.
Yes, one of those registered independent Democrats you hear oh so much about.
You going to bat for Hannity’s conspiracy bullshit is very telling.
Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…
Registering as a Democrat makes someone an “official Democrat” since registering makes it official.
And what do you say when they wear a MAGA hat and loudly state they only registered Democrat to F with primaries?
That they are a traitor to the nation and should be ashamed, but they are officially a Democrat because of their registration. That is why they get to vote in the primary, because registering makes it official no matter what the reason is.
I am not registered for any party, and the fact that I end up always voting for candidates of one party does NOT make me an official member of that party.
If the world were black and white then he would be a democrat. In actuality tho the new guy is a deranged and delluded self glorifying wreck of a weirdo. Read his/the incidendts wikipedia article.
Okay, I see here he registered independent and expressed support for candidates of both parties this cycle. Still, his relevant support for Biden/Harris and that he recently donated money to the democratic party are what are going to give this accusation legs.
edit: recently
I see here he is independent and has supported both sides, meaning he is a Democrat
Flawless logic
His dream ticket was Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy. He was not a Democrat.
FFS they’re doubling down on Hannity being right. Apparently you don’t have to be a Democrat to be a Democrat.
He is registered Unaffiliated in NC but did vote in the Democratic primary in March but for all we know it was a protest vote against Biden.
We do know he was coo-coo bananas and should not have had access to firearms.
He voted for Trump. Not a ton of Democrats do that. Call me crazy but while I’d assume someone who ends up attempting assassination doesn’t like the person they attempt assassinating, that doesn’t mean they are automatically a member of the opposing political party. 1/3rd of Americans are independents.
It’s okay, they are “no longer as certain” as they were that this Trump-voting registered independent is a Democrat like the always reliable Sean Hannity says he is.
He also loudly declared he regretted doing so. Both these looney tunes wanna-be assassins were all over the place with their political leanings. Blindly assuming he isn’t a democrat when things like 19 donations to the Democratic party strongly suggest otherwise is myopic.