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I have no idea why so many people are upset about Sync. There are so many FOSS alternatives. Just… don’t use it? It literally doesn’t impact you at all.
Voyager is basically as feature rich as sync and only continues to get better. That said I love sync. And its like being in a warm blanket again. I also don’t mind supporting the developer with a one time payment to remove ads. The subscription doesn’t bother me because he offers a fair alternative imo.
How much is the one time payment?
$20 to remove ads. $99 for ultra (includes ad removal and extra features, many of which require servers).
I think the $99 one is more for people who want to be moderators and set up AutoBots and maybe a Decepticon or two. Who am I too judge.
What’s a Decepticon?
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I’m not upset in any way about Sync. It seems like a quality app with a different business model.
What I’m actually upset about is people claiming open source apps are shitty and only Sync is possible to provide a good experience. That’s just pure bs
This seems like a bit of a strawman argument. I haven’t seen anyone say that explicitly—if they have, it certainly isn’t common. I have seen people say they’re willing to pay for a “higher quality app,” and I can see how you could interpret the implication there being that FOSS apps are shitty in comparison. For me, though, I don’t interpret it the same way, and I’d assume positive intent. Some people like Sync better than the other apps and are willing to pay for it. That’s it, really.
I might prefer potatoes, but you might hate potatoes.
If we were looking at dishes in a restaurant, I might think one dish is a better value, because I like potatoes. You might think that that dish isn’t worth it if you hate potatoes. It doesn’t mean that the dish is better or worse, just that we have different preferences.
I don’t use sync myself, so I can’t speak on what specific aspects other people prefer over the FOSS apps. They might trust the developer more because they’ve interacted with them for a while, they might like how the UI works with their specific device, or they might even just like the logo. At the end of the day, it doesn’t effect me, as I can just keep using jerboa.
That’s a good analogy. The difference is that I’ve seen some comments saying that they really like potatoes because X sauce combo feel more polished for them (lol), and that’s cool, but I’ve seen several claiming that potatoes are the superior dish, potatoes have way more combinations, potatoes are way better at everything, nothing can compare to potatoes… Omg you can link settings from the app another reason why it’s the best app! (a custom html link that the app parses followed by an id code to redirect the app to that settings page, cool but kinda unnecessary to me).
And, it reaches a point where I just get pissed. 0 consideration, it’s just hostile. Mind you, I also read people saying that it’s the enemy of Foss yada yada, way less people and with tons of downvote at the bottom of the barrel, fuckem.
I’m just seeing quite the high victim complex from the sync users while belittling others, it feels a tiny bit like (and I’m so sorry for making this comparison) chistianity.
I’m just waiting for the wave to pass but it’s still everywhere.
I’ve been living under a rock, what’s the deal with sync?
Sync for Reddit was a popular app.
After the whole API thing the dev started developing sync for Lemmy.
The open beta was just released.
The free version includes ads.
You can remove ads with a subscription, or with a one time payment of $20.
The Reddit ad free version was like $5, so the price increase pissed some people off.
Also the FOSS or die people got pissed off.
There are many great Lemmy apps, I say just use whatever works best for you.
20$ seems pretty fair to me.
I bought sync for reddit over 10 years ago and used it daily. I had no issue what so ever paying. The app itself is nothing short of top notch quality and you can tell LJ is passionate about his work. He’s continously updating the app and making improvements. Hell, you can spend more at a fast food joint vs the single one time payment option.
The Sync for Reddit Dev has released an app for lemmy. People are salty because it’s way better than any of the foss apps that are currently out.
I’m not sure what people were expecting. It’s not like the sync dev had to start over. I would bet they were able to reuse a huge chunk of the source.
5 weeks at 100 hours ish to get to public beta.
Well you did a great job, i was a Sync user back when i was on Reddit and I’m glad to have your app back.
Infinity just dropped, so your time is limited!
Oh I’m definitely going to give it a try once it hits fdroid so it’s easy to update. I’m not somehow thinking that Sync is inherently better than Foss apps. But it was always going to feel more mature. It’s a conversion of an app that’s been in development for 11 years, rather than a brand new app.
Sync for Reddit was a popular-ish third-party Reddit app. The dev has been working on building a version of it for Lemmy, and the surrounding community has been pretty excited for it. Recently, Sync for Lemmy was released, and there’s been a lot of fanfare, conversation, etc. In my opinion, it’s the most polished Lemmy client by far. Some people are annoyed that the premium features cost significantly more than they did in Sync for Reddit. The dev said it’s to offset the smaller user base, which seems reasonable to me, but it’s spurred a lot of arguments about the paid model.
The big one is that it introduces ads while Lemmy is an ad-free platform, and the option to pay to remove ads isn’t regionalized, so for some people it’s wildly expensive to buy. There’s also some question about some of the permissions.
The developer is implementing regional pricing as we speak though.
Honestly I’ve seen at least 10 times as much content from people mad about the people mad about sync as I have from people mad about sync.
Yeah that’s my take. If you like what you have, just keep using it lol.
I switched to Sync is because it seems to play nicer with my foldable phone than Voyager or Jerboa, but otherwise they’re all pretty much just as solid as each other imoTbh I see much more people mentioning the complaining than the actual complaining
or even Connect, which is not open source and used/praised by thousands of people
What are you goofballs fighting about? Your fav lemmy app? Just scroll in peace
Most of this community came from reddit. This is only as stupid as if the upvote arrow is red or orange.
The dress was black and blue either way.
You shut your dirty whore mouth!
It’s only stupid because it’s clearly orange
Different Lemmy apps have different upvote buttons, soon. We will do a mild amount of tomfoolery and a massive amount of horsing around with this knowledge :trolling.jpg:
throws chair
Oi! Kindly throw that elsewhere, you muppet!
(╯ರ ~ ರ)╯︵ ┻━┻
Put that back… (ヘ･_･)ヘ┳━┳
I cant wait for round 2 when Boost launches
Has he said he’s making an app for it?
It’s up for pre-registration on Google Play, and it has a community floating around somewhere. Not quite ready yet, but last I heard he’s getting close.
Got it queued up to download when it’s ready. Boost and Sync were my two reddit apps of choice. I often used boost when sync wouldn’t work on a device I was using.
Think the link is discontinued or something, I can’t find it on the Play Store, and they don’t have any Android links up rn. I’ll just keep waiting patiently…lol
It is still there:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy
Fuuuuck my mistake. I thought this was a comment I left in reference to Artemis for kbin lmao.
I love boost! Can’t wait!
Lol. Yes this is definitely happening.
And Thunder!
And my axe !
And my bow!
Legendary username lol
Thanks! Every day is a good day not to be spez. I really like yours too, afraid I won’t be able to unsee it now.
Here I am still using Jerboa
Also Liftoff!
I AM A WEFWEF/VOYAGER PERSON NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US (uses iPhone ui on android)
Where’s Infinity?
No love for Connect? Best app I’ve used so far.
I’m a RIF refugee, and Connect is definitely filling that void
It’s not FOSS either, that’s why the FOSS people don’t mention it.
I’ve really been liking it, FOSS or not.
I’m trying it as of today and I dig it. Popping over to boost when it’s ready though, I was a loyal user for years
Thank you for the link kind stranger. I’ll try that one out, too.
Been speedrunning Lemmy apps the past few days
also as a kbin user
god damn i want a native kbin app!
Artemis was supposed to be coming this week, no word yet.
You also have to use it from the artemis.camp instance, but that’s temporary until the kbin api is finished.
The underlying protocol is identical to Lemmy I thought. Why can’t you use any of the apps already?
the protocol that allows instances to communicate is, but AFAIK there’s an API that apps use… the protocol is kinda just for how to push raw bulk data around, whilst the instance itself does things like filter based on “top”, “hot”, etc
also, in activitypub things like the actor (user), each comment, post, etc are individual objects which must be requested individually (or in a list via a search i think?), so any app that communicates via activitypub would need to make hundreds of requests to the instance to display a single post, comments, and user information!
Do y’all know your phone has a browser?
It does. But I still use my mail app instead of going to gmail.com, I use my Spotify app instead of going to Spotify.com, I use the YouTube app, etc.
Sometimes a specialized app is just better. For me that’s definitely the case w sync.
Right there with you. I use —reddit— lemmy on my phone on the go. I want a button in a consistent place that opens it quickly.
I open my browser, oops I was looking at another tab I’ll just go through my tabs to find the specific website I’m looking for this time. At that point the browser is just its own app picker inside of another app picker. I have even added links to my Home Screen as well, but I’ve run into many issues with opening loads of dupes and clogging up my tabs. Maybe browser works in a perfect world (or even just a world where I save links in pocket or something instead of tabs idk) but it kind of just seems like an app browser with extra steps. Browser elitists do themselves no favors acting high and mighty about literally just not having an app? About saving 70MB like it’s 1999? Idk it’s a dumb argument. Everybody’s solution works for them.
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I’m proving their point that sometimes a service is worth paying for (either through cash or by seeing ads)? In that case, yeah I guess I am. Different people have different preferences. Go figure.
I bet half the people pretending Sync to be some malicious spyware have set Chrome as their default browser
I wish it was that low.
The best way to lemmy is mlmym.org on LibreWolf. Works great on Linux phone and has the same old.reddit interface I’ve used for over a decade.
Why waste space on single-purpose apps when you have a browser. Also, websites can’t track you or waste resources when you aren’t actively using them like apps can.
Lacks customization.
Is there a stable FOSS app? I always favor that variety when available.
I’ve had zero issues with Memmy. Maybe one crash in the couple weeks I’ve had it
Another Memmy fan. No issues at all. Memmy on IOS, Voyager on desktop…
I’ve been using Memmy for weeks and it’s been fantastic. I was Apollo before, for comparison.
I was on Narwhal before, but a lot of the design is similar.
Awesome, installing it now.
I think I have like 5 Lemmy apps installed, including the voyager web app, but I keep coming back to Memmy.
Voyager, Liftoff, Thunder.
Off the top of my head I know that Mlem, Memmy, and Jerboa are FOSS. Most of the others probably are too, but those are the ones I have ready to hand
I’d tired Mlem when it first released and had some crashing issues. I’ll give it and Memmy another go. Thanks!
It’s come leaps and bounds since it launched–I’ve been stalking the GitHub and the current dev build is nice. The App Store version is still a little rough but they’ve got an update in beta that smooths it out a lot
Nightly builds are always fun 💪🏼
It’s been a blast for be personally to learn iOS dev from the other folks who work on Mlem.
Memmy is the best I have found. A lot of the issues recently have been related to instance problems like with lemmy.world. Stuff that Memmy isn’t at fault for.
That said, I am very excited to try the Voyager iOS App when it releases!
Liftoff has been super stable all the time I’ve used it, Infinity for Lemmy is surprisingly stable for something new, I’ve had no crashes at all. Both of them are updating very quickly and get better all the time.
You don’t have to pick sides.
What about Lemmios, Avelon and Bean…
Liftoff is the only app that does swipe anywhere to go back so it’s the only real usable alternative so far
I tried Thunder yesterday and it also has that feature.
So does Memmy, does it not?
Me again, it doesn’t seem to work with swipe anywhere in the comment section though. Too bad :( I hope they’ll fix it because the app (Thunder) seems nice. Back to Liftoff…
Does liftoff do it from the comment section? I haven’t tried it. And if so does that interfere with your upvote/downvote swipes? (If it has that) I tried turning off the upvote/downvote swipes on thunder and it still wouldn’t let me swipe out of a post from the comments but now that I think about it, I wouldn’t want that unless it was only just one half of the screen so I could still upvote. I keep going back to Voyager because it feels like Apollo and I’m hoping they’ll emplement the swipe back at least from the post portion soon. I’ve got like 5-6 apps for Lemmy on my iPad. It’s pretty great we’re getting so much to choose from.
I’m like you, I also switch between many and Voyager sure is very Apollo like. And one of the apps that most consistently works.
Yeah, Liftoff allows for swipe anywhere also on comments. That’s how I personally want it, different behaviours depending on where you are is not very nice. You can still swipe left to upvote or save I believe, I am not sure if itself possible to change that yet.
The best thing would just be if one app managed to copy Apollo, it is the gold standard in usability.
I also think it’s very impressive with so many cool apps. Fantastic developers. But I kind of wish I had just one that was suiting.
Thanks for the tip, trying it now and it seems nice!
On Memmy and swipe for back is working
Can confirm I just tested it.
We must not be on the same version then. In Memmy I can only swipe anywhere on the bottom menu bar to go back (and of course from the left edge of the screen like all apps).
Infinity for lemmy does that too
It works perfectly fine on Sync
Sync does this too, and you can enable a discord style sliding drawer too
I set my android to use swipe gesture to go back. So this is not an issue for me. Anyways. Posting this using Voyager
also plugging infinity for lemmy, it’s really good, but incomplete as of the moment.
Thanks for the tip. I’m on iOS. I didn’t know you could set swipe anywhere on the screen in Android to go back. That’s cool.
