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      The reason it exists is so bizarre too. It stems from the rivalry between the republics of Venice and Ragusea (modern day Dubrovnik). Venice was gradually asserting control over more and more of the Adriatic coastline and Ragusea didn’t much fancy sharing a land border with its rival, so it just gave up one tiny stretch of land each to its north and south to the Ottoman Empire. Venice would therefore have to come by sea or risk angering the Ottomans. Eventually Austria manages to annex the Dalmatian territory of both Venice and Ragusea, but the Ottomans still held those two tiny strips of land. The Ottomans were not typically on the best of terms with Austria, and they held on to the two tiny bits of Adriatic coast up until the treaty of Berlin in 1879. By this point, Neum (the Bosnian one) had been part of Ottoman Bosnia for 179 years, so the borders were pretty damn entrenched, and they survived through the shifts to Austrian, Yugoslav, and eventually independent Bosnian-Herzegovinan political structures. So a petty but clever move of hiding behind a bigger empire in the 1600s created the tiny bit of Bosnian coastline today.

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      But it has to share it with Herzegovina, so more like 6 miles for Bosnia and 6 miles for Herzegovina

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      Neum is actually in Herzegovina but whatever. It’s inside a bay that Croatia controls from both sides, and in fact has a bridge over. If B&H got naughty again, they could turn it into a lake just by dumping enough clay from the bridge.

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      Pain in the arse if you’re staying in Split and do a day trip to Dubrovnik. You pass thru customs and immigration twice in the space of 100 meters and 2 hours.

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    If Tito was here, the Bosnians could go to the beach if they wanted to.

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          I swear this happens to every science meme group. Just devolves into general memes about anything. It’s especially bad when the only active mod is the one doing it.

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          Geography is definitely science.

          From Wikipedia:

          Geography is the study of the lands, features, inhabitants, and phenomena of Earth. Geography is an all-encompassing discipline that seeks an understanding of Earth and its human and natural complexities—not merely where objects are, but also how they have changed and come to be.

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              What I think you mean by “natural geography” is just one part of the field. Urban / economic geography (regional dynamics, housing policy, tourism geography, population analysis) and Historical / Social geography (historical urban geography, homelessness, migration, etc) Are big parts of the field of geography. Most of modern geography is interested in both the physical (more geology, climate, biomes, etc) and human aspects, and how they interact.

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              Geopolitics is “The study of the relationship among politics and geography, demography, and economics, especially with respect to the foreign policy of a nation,” and in that vein is also a science.

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          Where I went to university the geography faculty were part of the Earth Science department. It formed a really interdisciplinary department, there was work being done, for example, in “health geography” — applying population & ecological studies, community health research, and epidemiology to understand disparities. Urban geography like was mentioned strives to understand of the role of cities in regional, national, and international developments but also how cities operate through governance and administration, the role of philanthropic institutions and NGOs, gentrification etc.

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    I once stayed in an AirBnB north of Dubrovnik. Driving through Bosnia for 20 minutes and doing 4 passport controls at a time was a real pain. Also had to be careful to switch off data roaming as the towers weren’t in the EU so the data charges went through the roof.

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      Well zero coastline is even shorter than these two for sure ;) But even if we ignore the trivial cases and small islands, Wikipedia lists Gibraltar as having shorter coastline.

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        It’s sort of a Missouri during the civil war situation.

        The official militia presence of Croatia joined with serboans and created a militia… And the exact same thing happened on the other side. (VJ, HVO)

        It was more a religious issue than nationality.