• SeanBrently@lemm.ee
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    8 hours ago

    So practically speaking, there is no anti-genocide vote. There is no health care for everyone vote. There is no reduction in firearm caused deaths of children and teens vote. There is no anti corporate regulatory capture vote. These things just are not possible to achieve in America by voting.

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      5 hours ago

      Yes. This is correct. Kudos to you for reaching the correct conclusion. It’s difficult to admit the system is fucked beyond repair; the fundamental shortcoming of Jill Stein voters. The only hope is to continue voting for the most progressive of the two candidates and pressure the winner to change the system (if that is even possible)

    • celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 hours ago

      The thing about the “muh genocide!” crowd, is that if they gave that much of a shit about issues within their own country, maybe Americans could get some nice things once in a while, above and beyond the run of the mill bread and circuses.

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      6 hours ago

      There is a vote for MORE or LESS of all of the above. It’s not like your vote doesn’t matter. Do you want more genocide, or less genocide? “No genocide” isn’t an option. So do you want more genocide, or less genocide?

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        5 hours ago

        Which is which? Like, seriously. Put the recent headlines about Israel’s actions against the other guy’s vague, contradictory statements and demonstrated lack of deep interest in foreign affairs. It’s not clear at all.

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          1 hour ago

          Put the recent headlines about Israel’s actions against the other guy’s vague, contradictory statements and demonstrated lack of deep interest in foreign affairs.

          You’re comparing Netanyahu to Trump? I don’t understand.

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            49 minutes ago

            For what it’s worth, I’m comparing what’s actually happening (genocide and the Middle East spiraling into war) with Democrats in office (tsk-tsking but providing material support to Netanyahu) to what history shows would likely happen with the other guy in office (hot air and bombast, but almost certainly not any greater material support).

      • SeanBrently@lemm.ee
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        5 hours ago

        OK I want LESS.

        I have been wanting less for a long time. Those things I want LESS of don’t seem to be reduced by much since I became eligible to vote. Voting’s not enough.

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          2 hours ago

          Awesome, vote Democrat.

          Voting’s not enough.

          Almost correct. There’s just not enough voting. Having a razor thin Democrat majority doesn’t net us any victories, it just prevents (most) catastrophe. You want progress, give us a 5-senator majority (enough to override the Manchins and Sinemas). You want major progress, give us 60 dems, to bypass the filiburster. Though, Democrats finally seem willing to end the filibuster rule, so at least we should see some progress on that front.