It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

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    A protest vote to a third party is actually a protest vote to whoever you prefer less. You’re essentially just removing yourself as a voter and making it more likely the person you like less is elected… we often say “third party is a vote for Trump” since most of lemmy is sane - but for a staunch conservative a vote for a third party is a vote for Harris.

    I’d encourage everyone to vote regardless of your leaning - having low voter turnout allows more shitty shenanigans.

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      Yep, we also say that because there are a lot of astroturf accounts pushing Stein and De La Cruz on Lemmy that are hyper-critical of Harris but suspiciously never want to talk about what a shitbag Trump is.

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          I’m really encouraged by the fact that universalmonk and return2ozma’s posts get heavily downvoted when they push this slop in Lemmy

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          we can handle them just fine because the fact of the matter is trump would be way worse for Palestine. There’s a reason Netanyahu prefers Trump.

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              no, because stein is a stooge and has no chance at all of winning anyway. that’s the entire point of the article.

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                  She is funded by republicans and has no experience in government whatsoever. She is utterly unqualified for running the most powerful country on earth. She literally only exists to take votes from democrats.

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                    Now, now… She did win a seat in the Lexington town meeting in 2005. :)

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein

                    "2005 Lexington Town Meeting

                    In 2005, Stein set her sights locally, running for the Lexington Town Meeting, a representative town meeting, the local legislative body in Lexington, Massachusetts. Stein was elected to one of seven seats in Precinct 2.[156] She finished first of 16 candidates, receiving 539 votes (20.6%). Stein was reelected in 2008, finishing second of 13 vying for eight seats.[157] Stein resigned during her second term to again run for governor.[158]"

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              Give it up bud. The veil is lifted and no one is falling for it.

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                  You hopefully won’t be able to sleep at night when things get worse because you refused to get your hands a little dirty doing what’s best.

                  I don’t like to clean dirty dishes, but it’s got to be done sometimes. I’d rather it just go away, but the alternative is much worse. I recognize that doing nothing doesn’t actually accomplish anything, as nice as that feels. I have to just get over it and get it done before things get much worse.

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                  Okay… well, either way- at least we won’t have to hear from you all after November… so, enjoy it while it lasts I guess. We’ll all just see you again in 2028 when you push whoever is running against democratic choice.

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          You men Shill Stein? What lies are being told about Shill Stein? In what way is Shill Stein being besmirched, and how can I add to it?

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                  No. Accusing anyone that disagrees with you (reference: gEnOciDe sUpPoRtEr)of something that’s demonstrably false is considered MAGAspeak.

                  News flash:

                  EVERYONE is against genocide bud. You don’t belong to a special grassroots movement of people that keyed in on something that everyone else can’t understand. So drop the smug pseudo-intellectual rhetoric.

                  No one is buying it. And the evidence lies in the ratios. You’re all being downvoted into dust on a platform that supposedly support your ideology.

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        Trump admits he’s a shit bag, Harris pretends she’s not.

        Hope whatever shareblue is calling itself these days finally stops getting funded when Harris loses.

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          Trump admits nothing, he just lies and lies and lies and lies and deflects and denies and projects and acuses. What planet are you on that you don’t know this? He’s one of the least humble or self aware men on the whole planet.

          “Trump admits he’s a shitbag” is just another big fat lie.

          YOU admit he’s blatantly a shit bag and then turn right stone and bOtH SideS the whole thing.

          There’s literally nothing honest about Trump. He’s an honesty free zone with an ago the size of a continent, the self awareness of an amoeba and the loyalty of a cosmic ray.

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            K. The genocidal cop pretending to be a wine aunt still isn’t getting my vote.

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              Because you instead want the worse genocidal racist lying hating minority-bashing blasphemous insurrectionist country-betraying grifter “best king of israel” infantile senile nasty idiot to win. Got it. Two choices: the sane one and the constitution wrecker. You’ve made your choice. Stop pretending it’s because of Harris. It’s because you like his racist shit filled diapers.

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                    Yet here you are, I’m this thread, trolling serious voters with your right wing troll antidemocratic talking points. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, hanging a sign saying “swan” round it’s neck isn’t convincing.

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                Nope, neither of them are getting my vote kiddo. Sorry. I know politics are scary this being your first election ever, but there are always more than two choices.

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                  You’re living in more-than-childish naive fake -reality cloud-cuckoo land if you really believe there are more than two choices for who will become president!

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                    I’m sorry this is your first election but your anti democratic right wing nonsense isn’t reality.

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      Yeah, also, Conservatives are more ‘fall in line’ voters, so there’s less vote splitting on the Right than on the Left. Libertarians do appeal to the people opposed to both eyes in the boardroom and eyes in the bedroom on both the Left and the Right, but for the most part, the GQP follows the ‘Vote for the Conservative in the Primary and the Republican in the General’ more than we follow its inverse (replace Conservative with Liberal and Republican with Democrat). And for Republicans afraid of a Trump presidency, come join us and vote for Harris. Then maybe go work on de-Trumping your party after they lose with you helping us. ;)

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        You… do know that the right gets like…. 4x the 3rd party vote compared to the left. Like what you say is 100% false.

        Libertarians+constitution got like 1.2% compared to PSL+greens 0.31% last presidential election iirc.

        But also, if the DNC wanted the 3rd party vote they could simply… court it… instead of pissing on it? To say they cost the vote when the DNC continually shot Bernie in the face in 2016, using funds meant to promote the DNC candidate to campaign against a Democrat candidate makes it FOR SURE THE 3RD PARTY VOTERS FAULT. NOTHING THE DNC COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO NOT LOSE. THEY WERE PERFECT FOR REFUSING TO ADOPT LEGALIZED WEED, SOCIAL PROGRAMS, MEDICARE FOR ALL, ETC. IN FACT, IT IS GOOD THEY ARE STILL REFUSING TO DO SO AND ALSO REFUSING TO JUST NOT GIVE BILLIONS TO SUPPORT AN ACTIVE GENOCIDE. THAT’LL SHOW THIRD PARTY VOTERS THE TRUE MEANING OF DEMOCRACY!

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          I like that it’s the Democrats fault for whenever these issues failed, and not the Republicans who universally vote against them. Remove every Republican and I bet we start seeing these issues getting passed.

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            Talking about simply adopting the policy to the DNCs platform, which they won’t. Not about it actually passing, which they still should be able to do but is out of the question when they don’t even want it.