• eestileib@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Nobody’s gonna mention that this is an F-16B cockpit and Ukraine got single-seater F-16MLUs?

    Can’t even enjoy this any more, I’m like sandpaper atm.

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    Those dates are a little unfair, the su34 is basically two decades older, but got put on Ice. And the newer models F16 are a huge leap up from the original 70s model.

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      It’s not like the Ukrainians are getting new block 70s. Thery’re almost certainly old block 40s on the verge of retirement.

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        I’m sure she’s flattered as a true patriot. I know she is. I’ve seen her in patriotic wear.

        Not, like, a LOT of patriotic wear by square inches. But enough.

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      1 month ago

      Also very relevant is the missiles in use. Those certainly are not from the 70s.

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    I dislike Russian aggression as much as the next non tankie but can we agree the Su34 looks fucking amazing?

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      IMO basically every Soviet / Russian jet has looked better than American jets.

      I like the look of the MiG-15, the 21, etc. But, IMO the jets really got beautiful right as the Soviet Union was collapsing.

      The SU-27 is a beautiful plane, the MiG-29 too. It just seems like with some of these jets, the American equivalents were designed by computer and manufactured precisely to spec. While, it feels like some of the Soviet planes involved guys with hammers trying to make a beautiful curved surface.

      It also helps that the Russians often use colourful paint jobs, while the US uses flat boring grey that shows every flaw.

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          Don’t get me wrong, nearly every fighter plane looks cool. But, it’s just different varieties of cool. Like, a lot of the US planes look Lamborghini-cool, with hard surfaces and so on. The Russian / Soviet planes just look more sculpted.

          And, if the rule of cool doesn’t apply, then why did P-40 fighter planes have shark’s mouths?

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            Because Americans are kinda like W40k orcs and think painting something makes it stronger, although it actually works for the orcs.

            /jk

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        The raptor definitely looks better than the felon imo, but for 4-4.5 gen, yeah, I’d agree in terms of looks for the most part. Though there are a couple exceptions - the F-104 looks cooler than the MiG-21, imo.

        Edit: surprised nobody called me out for citing 2nd gen jets lol

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          I dunno. The nose of the MiG-21 looks weird, but I really like the look of the delta wings, the rudder and the ailerons. The F-104 with nothing mounted on the wingtips looks like a dart, which is cool I suppose. With the typical big fuel tanks on the wingtips it looks like some kind of catamaran.

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          Hey, they’re at least a top five maker, of the five companies that can make a jet from the last forty years.

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            Not if you include any kind of joint warfare roles or even information warfare. The airframe and powerplant are sufficient but the onboard computing, radios, jamming capabilities, lock detection and radar are all far behind western manufacturers.

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      It’s only natural to be curious. We’re human after-all. Just remember you can look but don’t touch. I’ll never forgive you if you cheat on F35-chan and break her heart.