Don’t be a cunt, be a cool guy who votes for Harris. No betraying an entire country, please.
You spelled cuck wrong. Don’t be a cuck. Don’t stand by and watch while Trump fucks your nation and democracy as a whole.
Insert joke about warmth and depth here.
Can’t say I disagree. Carry on.
I didn’t vote for him, but my mistake was not voting directly against him. As heavy-red of an area I’m in, it probably didn’t matter, but I still felt guilty when he won. I’m one of the Bernie bros who couldn’t let go; and we legitimately made a mistake back then - but I was for sure Hillary was gonna dunk it. I knew people were stupid, but I didn’t know THAT many people were stupid. I was flabbergasted when Trump won.
I am not a fence-sitter either, I hold views that are too conservative for extremists on the left; and likewise I hold views that are too progressive for extremists on the right. So I’m not even sure I belong here replying to this post…lol
But unfortunately, there are deal-breaking ideals for both sides. I believe in gun rights, I believe in equality, but not equity, but I also believe in human rights, so…here I am :D
Wait, so this is the sort of Conservative place that’s voting for Harris? I’m not judging (I wouldn’t call Trump a conservative) but I am surprised.
No, they’re doing good work in a tainted place
Ppl keep telling me Harris IS conservative because she is not progressive enough. So it tracks.
All of lemmy is so extremely left. There are no conservatives on lemmy just propagandists manufacturing consent.
I broadly agree with you that everyone who voted for Trump was in some sense wrong, but I don’t think your framing is helpful. Even honest people with good motivations make mistakes and I think that some percentage of Trump voters was essentially mistaken when they voted for Trump (and if they’re planning to vote for him again).
Specifically, I think the most common mistake they’re making is believing that the ends justify the means.
Let’s say a person holds some sort of conservative belief that’s not in itself evil, like that taxes should generally be as low as possible, that any fiscal headroom should primarily be taken as an opportunity for a tax cut rather than for more state spending. There’s nothing wrong per se with believing this (all tax policy is a matter of balance and there will always be some people who, on balance, think taxes should be lower). However, believing that this is so important that you should vote for a person like Trump is wrong: the ends (low taxes) don’t justify the means (Trump regaining the presidency).
NB: The question as to whether low taxes are actually good, or of whether Trump will actually deliver them, is irrelevant to this argument; the whole point I’m making is that these people are mistaken, so if they’re also mistaken about the merits of low taxes that’s a point in favour of my argument, not against it. For what it’s worth, Trump will raise taxes on all Americans because his tariff scheme is a tax that will be paid for by Americans.
Like it makes a difference. The 2 parties are a joke both serving the rich mega corps. The Dems are just lag 10 years behind -see Dick Cheney endorsing Harris. Enjoy voting for the lesser evil time after time.
I’m hopeful it kills the greater evil so it begins a new cycle when it takes its place.
Yeah kinda like trickle down economics any day now it will start working.
Sigh one could wish. Maybe if some dragons are all visited by some ghosts. The DNC has to go but GOP needs to go first. The only option people can dicuss publicly is go “go vote” anything else gets FBI folder.
cunts can vote for anyone-case in post.
I’m glad it’s hip now to advocate, after a fashion, for the objectively better candidate, but you’re not achieving anything here.
you sound as mindless and vicious as the people you’re trying to antagonize.
‘People who condemn fascists are just as bad as fascists’ has never been a sensible take.
I can’t find a way to reply with contrarian satire that isn’t simply offering surreptitious fascist talking points appended with “/s”. The relegation of “both sides are the same” to the truly gullible has made proper political irony infinitely more difficult to construct, which has been the only real casualty of its relegation. I ask you woke moralists, was it worth taking away my easiest character to write?
sure.
did you get convinced of “both sides” somehow?
lots of people fell for it, don’t beat yourself up.
… you have negative self-awareness.
aw, look at the little pot screaming at kettles.
What you’re doing in this comment is what you condemned in the previous comment.
you being convinced of both-sides ism?
Go on, interested in seeing where you’re going with this.
No: you are doing both-sides-ism. You are the one saying, calling fascists cunts is somehow comparable to being a fucking fascist.
Do you have object permanence?
I think that is the point; speak the language.
backfiring.
It’s like shaking babies to show people how bad shaking babies could be.
Keep going. You are so close to making a valid point
Narrator: He wasn’t.
don’t be frightened, take it at your at your own speed
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Unfortunately all candidates in this election are pro-genocide. If you pick the right one, maybe there will be a candidate next election who isn’t pro-genocide and your vote will actually count.
If you think trump is going to stop Israel, you’re a fool. He’s literally said that they’re going to slow.
Then again, I have a feeling most of you who think trump will be good for anything either are braindead or you’re a russian troll
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“Democracy’s on the ballot”
You’re doing fake performative outrage about primary voters while Trump is literally saying he would end voting.
