• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    They did the same thing in 2016, blaming black people for turning out in lower numbers than the did in 2008/2012.

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    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

    The party can’t fail, it can only be failed.

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    Kind of like in 2020 there were talks about “machismo” when the “Latino” voters in Florida were voting for Trump. They like non-white people until we’re no longer useful.

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      Democrats: “Sorry browns, but your rights are just too unpopular. We’ll never sell it to the normals. Besides, what are you going to do? Vote Republican?”

      Some of them: “Yes I will!”

      Democrats: shocked-pikachu

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        There’s a section in Machiavelli where he says you should make sure people fear you, and make them love you, but never ever fuck around and let them hate you. If they fear you they’ll do as they’re told, if they love you they’ll help you. But if they hate you they’ll destroy themselves just for a chance to spit in your face and there’s no way to really defend youtself from people who have committed themselves to destroying you even at the cost of their life, health, wealth, whatever.

        I think about that all. The. Time.

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      To be 100% real with you I have far worse things to say about Cuban and Venezuelan gusanos than “machismo” and they are the primary reason that Florida had their Hispanic vote go so far to the right. Yet the secondary reason is very clear, why vote blue when they aren’t doing anything for you?

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    Democrats are owed your vote unless you are white. This is something that republicans sometimes bring up for their great replacement fever dreams, but dems sure act like that is really the case.

    The only people that politicians are seemingly supposed to appeal to are white liberals.

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      astronaut-1

      We’re kind of seeing something equivalent to pogroms with the way anti-trans legislation is being used to force trans people to flee even if it doesn’t pass.

      Dems just call the cops, though. They don’t like to dirty their hands.

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        I think a lot of Americans are ready to do direct violence, but are being held back by pretty strong social taboos against it. The cops jealously guard their own monopoly on violence and power. And when some chud does take matters into their own hands, it seems to surprise them when they get clapped by the justice system. The desired dynamic seems to be “you call the cops, and then the cops do the violence”.

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          Yeah. I agree.

          Minneapolis in the first days after Mr. Floyd was murdered would be a really good case study on, idk, permissions to do violence.

          The pigs and the mayor were spreading misinformation about “outside agitators”, the whole white Minnesotan world was losing it’s damn mind, BIPOC people were throwing together adhoc neighborhood defense groups.

          It all happened very, very, very fast. Like hours in some cases, a few days at most. But people threw together community defense groups. I was confronted and asked to explain myself moving around the city several times. Folks were out on their porches in the evenings, idk, kind of watching?

          I’ve never seen so many normal people with guns. For a few months everyone was strapped. I had no idea BIPOC people were so heavily armed. There was serious we’re not going down without a fight energy. I even met a kid who was standing guard in a protest camp with a katana. Dude could not have been seventeen. I remember crying after talking to him because he was just a kid, armed with a sword, protecting people from all the shit that could go down at any moment - vehicle attacks, shootings, anything.

          And this was all while the cops in Minneapolis were going berserk, riding around suburban streets forty deep armed with machine guns and grenade launchers, firing paintballs and rubber munitions are random white people for being outside on their porches, doing drivebys with rubber bullets and gas grenades.

          So like there was this constant threat of white supremacist attacks, police attacks, and a whole lot of other potential threats, and all these people who would otherwise never think of openly carrying a gun linked up with their neighbors and allies and started very seriously protecting their neighborhoods.

          And that’s just the side of it I saw from where I lived near the middle of it all. There must have been all kinds of white supremacist shit happening out in the very white, very reactionary suburbs. The mayor was trying, badly, to do divide and rule shit by convincing people “outside agigtators” were behind everything to get people to turn on their neighbors.

          I haven’t looked in to other people’s accounts much bc i’ve been trying to shake off the trauma of it all for years, but there’s got to be a huge amount of valuable information out there.

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    I’m kind of surprised that none of the BlueMAGA freaks have mentioned that prior to the War on Terror, there wasn’t really a muslim constituency within the democratic party. Famously George W. Bush won the majority of muslim votes in 2000, because Al Gore had picked Joe Lieberman, and Lieberman was considered a dealbreaker among arabs precisely because he was too much of a zionist, while Bush just kept his mouth shut about that particular place.

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    Also conpletely lying about their views by saying they “dont care about Muslims in gaza” you know because they won’t vote for the people currently funding and running cover for the genocide being done to them.

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    They should ask themselves why they’re having to conduct a handwritten letter campaign to people who didn’t vote last election but have voted democrat in the past thonk

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    In ten years when libs have full thrown trans people under the bus by “following the law” or whatever leads them there I look forward to posts saying "I can’t believe the trans hate the LGB community so much they’re willing to not vote democratic "