“The race for the White House is too close for comfort,” write parties from around Europe, calling on Stein to throw her support behind Democrat Kamala Harris.
  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    23512·
    22 days ago

    Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      707·
      22 days ago

      I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we’re talking about the same person here.

      • index@sh.itjust.works
        711·
        22 days ago

        A nation that sent his troops on an invasion without boots and helmets controls ¾ of the candidates of the most powerful and advanced nation in the world that spend 10 times as much money in war and propaganda than everyone else, that has thousand military facilities around the globe, that has the biggest mass surveillance network ever seen in history with satellites capable of snooping at every inch of the planet at any given time.

        That’s what you are saying.

    • mos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      22 days ago

      I see these comments a lot and I’d like to learn more. Do you have any articles on this?

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
        394·
        22 days ago

        Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:

        Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.

        Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.

        Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.

        Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
          523·
          22 days ago

          According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.

          • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
            134·
            22 days ago

            Coordinating directly with Putin, the oligarch dictator of Russia, who is currently engaged in a genocide in Ukraine, to elect Trump, a US presidential candidate that has told Israel it “needs to finish the job,” a person whose son in law has said gaza is “excellent beach front property,” and who hid the number of drone strikes and their casualties caused during his admin, is the lesser evil?

            I’d call the above stupid, not its far to disingenuous to be an actual real perspective.

            • index@sh.itjust.works
              520·
              22 days ago

              Like it or not that still lesser evil than being a fascist who said israel “needs to finish the job” or being actively fueling a genocide by sending israel fascist government “whatever it needs”.

              Lesser evil logic, you vote for the lesser evil.

              • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
                143·
                22 days ago

                This is nonsense.

                FPTP voting means there are 2 viable options only. If you don’t vote for the “lesser evil,” you are voting for the “greater evil.”

                Choosing to not make a choice is still a choice. Voting for “not Harris” is the exact same thing as voting for “yes Trump” in our system.

                You’re voting for the greater evil by voting for Jill Stein, which is exactly what her and her partners Putin and Trump want.

  • chetradley@lemm.ee
    646·
    22 days ago

    I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I assumed Hillary was going to win anyway, and I was in a solidly red state so fuck it, might as well vote 3rd party.

    Then Trump won.
    Then I learned about Stein’s backwards views on nuclear energy, GMOs and vaccines.
    Then she turned out to be a Russian asset.
    Then she decided to run again and again, knowing that she’s only acting as a spoiler for the Dems.

    Boy did I make a mistake in 2016. I wish there was a perfect candidate for everyone to vote for, but unfortunately keeping Trump out of the white house is the best we can do. Harris isn’t my first choice, but I voted for her on behalf of all of the people who will suffer under another Trump presidency.

    • realitista@lemm.ee
      71·
      21 days ago

      Yep me exactly too. Though I vote in a solidly blue state, it won’t change much but the dems have gotten better and all 3rd parties have gotten worse in recent years, so I have no problem voting dem this time just to take zero risks.

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        4·
        21 days ago

        From a European perspective the race should be in the final quarter since it would have started two weeks ago.

      • AmidFuror@fedia.io
        15·
        22 days ago

        How’s that working out in Italy and Bavaria? Good thing Europeans have historically been able to keep fascism in check before it gets out of hand, or I might start to worry.

      • DragonTypeWyvern
        7·
        22 days ago

        Said a spawn of the British Empire that needed help to sort out European fascism last time.

        Just embarrassing to not view antifascism as a global effort in general tbqh.

      • draneceusrex@lemmy.world
        4·
        22 days ago

        Some of us are fucking trying, and wasn’t expecting any help anyway. I am sure Trump taking back over would have no effect on you…

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        22 days ago

        When you’re talking about an economy like the US, it’s never just our own. Unfortunately for the rest of the world.

  • Intergalactic@lemmy.world
    413·
    22 days ago

    Good. I was a part of the Green Party, I left when I learned they were planning of running a candidate this year, when internally, we were floating around the idea of NOT running a candidate. I am now a member of the Working Families Party.

  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
    193·
    22 days ago

    Damn, even people in other countries seem to understand what’s going on. I guess they don’t see both sides as the same for some reason. 🤔

  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
    14·
    22 days ago

    I don’t think she really has a choice this close to the election. RFK has tried suing to get off the ballot in a few states and failed.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    22 days ago

    The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘SAVE US!’…and I’ll look down and whisper 'No.

    -Jill Stein, probably

  • Linktank@lemmy.today
    414·
    22 days ago

    She’s hurting his chances, so I this is moronic. Mind your own politics you fried bread eaters.

  • nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz
    1024·
    22 days ago

    What the fuck do I care what europoors think? I don’t like Jill Stein but they should mind their own business! In America we understand that a country’s domestic politics are only the citizens’ business, that’s why we don’t involve ourselves in any foreign country’s domestic matters

    • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
      111·
      22 days ago

      That’s rich. I’m American, too, but the whole isolationist stance is bs. They are our allies, and whatever happens here effects them as well. You fell for the propaganda, champ.

      Also, it’s funny that you don’t choose not to see how much our own country involves itself in the affairs of other countries. Every American knows this.