Trump is winning all these states and look at the percentages. How?

Edit: many news agency are calling PA for Trump. So we are truly fucked.

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    I’m Canadian, so maybe I don’t understand US state vs. feds as well as I could. That said, what bit I know points to a federally-mandated nation-wide abortion ban being a mess that would take longer than 4 years to sort out. If Trump individually could stall most of his cases for a year+ then the states, some of which likely enshrined abortion rights into law tonight, will drag it out past this Presidency. Turns out I didn’t understand, and reproductive rights in the US are looking VERY tenuous right now.

    My guess is the next 4 years at least will see a big surge in “abortion tourism”, unsafe amateur abortions killing women, punitive reproductive lawsuits, and more horrific cases of women dying in hospitals or being forced to carry rape babies. Especially among the poor who can’t afford to take a quiet trip like the middle class/rich to do the very thing they voted to make illegal.

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      As an American who follows this stuff pretty closely, a national abortion ban will be opposed in the courts by the states, but it will very quickly get to the Supreme Court to assess the constitutionality of the ban. When congress passes a law, the president signs it, and the Supreme Court rules that the law is constitutional, that is basically the end of it. Our current court will absolutely uphold a national abortion ban.

      I think that the only way we avoid a national abortion ban under a Trump presidency is if the House of Representatives refuses to pass the ban. There is a slim chance that would happen but it’s possible.

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        Oof, I thought the states were more independent than that regarding healthcare in their borders. If that happens you folks are looking at some hard times ahead. All that stuff I edited into the end of my posts will become inescapable. I would find a silver lining in the fact that finally Republican women would be unable to get away with their “the only moral abortion is my own” BS, but I hate the thought of any woman dying or being forced to make desperate choices.

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          You’re correct that the states are more independent under the current interpretation of the law. GP is expecting the Supreme Court to overturn its own current interpretation to get that national abortion ban through.