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Summary
Trumpās popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.
Trumpās share of the popular vote is lower than Bidenās in 2020 (51.3%), Obamaās in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bushās in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bushās in 1988 (53.2%), Reaganās in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carterās in 1976 (50.1%).
The 2024 election results highlight Trumpās narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.
The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trumpās mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.
The biggest problem with the letters that went around is that it would require every swing state Secretary of State to stay quiet about it happening. And some of those SoSās are die hard democracy and election people. It would also require the IT people not to leak any concerns and they arenāt known for staying quiet about systems being penetrated.
All in all it seems like a weird thing happened but the silence is verging on Secret Government Agency with millions of domestic spies that never write a tell all book conspiracy territory.
soā¦ are we hearing any of that now?
I havenāt seen anything. I know Arizona for sure would be all over it. Their last three SoS elections were about keeping Maga out of the elections. The current governor is governor largely for standing up to Trump in 2020. If they thought they got hacked they would be using bullhorns to let us know.
What about the starling machines
I couldnāt find anything about voting machines named Starling. There is a StarLink theory. The problem is that seems to be based on a TikTok video that was incoherent by most reports, and is no longer up.
I get that moneyed interests could get evidence removed from a centralized social media service. But nothing in the transcript Iāve found describes a specific link from StarLink to voting machines. In fact it sounds like the person just described the basics of TCP/IP in a roundabout way to make it sound sinister. The problem is election systems are air gapped with the exception of a few highly controlled access points. Situations where thatās been compromised, (such as allowing remote work from home for election office workers) have made the news for precisely the reason that itās rare. And the most credible criticism of election security is that the election officeās computers could be compromised and used to spread malware to machines. But thatās an inherent weakness. If the office canāt access the results, they canāt report them.
Furthermore, thereās nothing special about StarLink that would make them a better access route. They arenāt close enough to intercept the unofficial results as a false cellphone tower, (and that wouldnāt change the official results later anyways), and any traffic going through them to attack election systems would also have to travel through modems on the ground, controlled by election officials. So destroying the satellite does nothing for covering your tracks. If you believe they can erase all traces of their traffic, then thereās no need to destroy a satellite as surely that would be even easier on a satellite controlled by a close ally.
At the end of the day, with what we know right now, the fuck up was with the Democratās messaging. Not anything to do with election security.
the only two significant things iāve heard, one is pretty much confirmed.
republicans had access illegally to source code for dominion voting machines (we know this because people were charged over it) this is also the contents of the āletter to VP harrisā thing that was released a minute ago. Though it doesnāt claim fraud or anything of the nature, just calls for a recount, and establishing that no foul play happened.
The second, and one i havenāt dug into at all, so take this at face value, is that apparently, there may have been a very large number of ābullet ballotsā or ballots just voting for trump, in AZ i think. I donāt know the status of this one. Even if itās true, it doesnāt explicitly mean voter fraud happened. It may be a tad bit suspect though.
Those are the only two theories iāve heard that have weight, granted iām not following election conspiracies, because iām a normal sane person.
Realistically the most likely āfraudā was elon musk buying twitter.