Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can’t remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you’re on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won’t bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you’re interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I’ll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I’m going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I’m going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the “Lhamana” and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a “middle” as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won’t go in detail here because I don’t feel qualified to summarize it, but it’s in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don’t refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn’t an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There’s probably some cultural significance to this, but I’m not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women’s work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

That’s all for now! To wrap thing up I would like to invite yall to our public matrix server! https://matrix.to/#/#tracha:chapo.chat

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  • buh [she/her]@hexbear.netM
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    very proud of my sister who for all her life wasn’t a Math Person but probably knows more than me at this point from studying for a MS in data science even though her undergrad education and work experience are more based in arts and humanities. At least I think I will always be the one more in tune with low level shit like firmware and operating systems and CPUs lololol she is not fond of the CS/CE centered classes she is taking. I’m traveling out to visit here this Christmas and she will likely be the first person I come out to

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    Does anyone have any advice for finding doctors who are not transphobic? I’m asking for a friend with a rare autoimmune condition. She is based in MA, USA. She waited 3 months to see a doctor and cannot return to them because they are transphobic.

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    Day 1 of recovery. Monsplasties suck as much if not more than paniculectomies. My boobs ache like hell. I can’t find my ibuprofen and have to take oxy and I hate taking oxy. Moving is very painful and I hate it.

    On the other hand, I feel more at peace with my body than I ever have. I feel like me for the first time ever. I’d gladly deal with this pain for that feeling.

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    bright side

    My grandfather has started calling me sweetie catgirl-heart, I love him so much.

    dark side CW: transphobia

    My sister has started taking jabs at my transness catgirl-cry. She’s usually very nice, and very accepting, but when she gets angry, she gets really angry. None of it’s explicit, but it’s things like getting mad at me for wanting to shave, or using the wrong pronouns before correcting herself in such a passive-aggressive way, almost like it’s not worth her effort in that moment. I haven’t even told her that I’m okay with they/them again, but I can feel the emotion in the way she said it.

    She’s also started becoming very verbally abusive, more than she was before. She started by referring to me as “lesbian” in a sort of fake-angry way, which was affirming, and we both understood that she wasn’t really angry. That turned into being called “bitch”, sometimes in a not so fake angry way. The fake anger has made way for real anger a lot of the time, and I’m worried I’ve sort of encouraged a bad sort of behavior. Not to mention she gets very physical sometimes, I’ll probably need to try setting some concrete boundaries. She can be very intimidating…

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    nicotine, drugs, eating

    Gym closed for Thanksgiving I think

    Don’t really know what to do with myself since I don’t have work and have nothing really going on

    Feeling bad about smoking again and trying not to overeat and squander some of my gym progress

    Shroomin’ a little bit shroomjak

    Might do a little spa day at home for myself but I don’t wanna have a dysphoria spiral idk

    Hope everyone has a lovely gay ass Thanksgiving

    🦃🥧🌽🫘🥔🍂

    The kitties said you’re all lovely and hope you eat a yummy lil feast for yourself

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    11 hours ago
    blog, social anxiety, fitness/weightloss/gymrat shit, crushposting

    Had a busy day yesterday, finally took care of a financial thing I’ve been putting off for ages and it was a stressful commute but I’m glad to have finally gotten it donemeow-bounce

    Had my consultation with a personal trainer and a body composition scan, in better shape than I was expecting based on how I’ve only really been taking better care of myself for a couple weeks and had been pretty sedentary for a long time prior to that

    Was really nervous about it but the trainer was pretty nice and accommodating to my nervousness and has good interpersonal skills and we had more in common talking about dealing with different injuries and our athletic backgrounds growing up than I was expecting and it went pretty well despite me being a little late to the meeting and being a little exasperated from doing shit and rushing to get ready for it by the time I got there

    Saw crush, starting to think the interactions we had that I weren’t sure if they were flirty or not weren’t and they’re just a friendly person, seemed less like that running into them yesterday and I don’t think there’s anything there which kinda made me sad, but I think it’s better than having a false expectation and getting my hopes up to get hurt later

    Who knows, maybe they were just having a bad day and weren’t in a good mood to chat yesterday and there might still be potential there but I’m not gonna put too much hope in it and set myself up to be disappointed, but I do like seeing them

    Idk they’re really cute and sweet and I’m gay and lonely and weird

    im-fuckin-gay

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    A steam friend I played cs with a couple of times randomly gifted me webfishing a couple days ago and I’m so grateful. Being in queer spaces that are also small enough for me to not be too wrecked with social anxiety to participate in them is great and I already am making good friends and that’s somehing I really needed. Just yesterday that same friend told me she’s just started HRT and we hadn’t talked about our gender and I came out to them as well but I think they already had the vibe considering trans people generally clocked me very easy before I even knew myself lol

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    slightly better-formed whining

    The more I go on the more I am convinced that taking a monthlong sabbatical from life (almost my entire life is queers in the computer) broke something catastrophically in my brain. I am now pretty sure that leaving everyone and everything for longer than like, two days was a huge mistake.

    I don’t seem to be real normal about it anymore, which might be due to the realisation that talkin’ to people is both something I need else my sense of self will melt, (no I don’t know why) and a difficult tiring spoon-loss activity. Idk, but it seems like I’m not real capable of thinking about social matters without bursting into tears anymore. What even is wrong with me? badeline-concern

    It’s possibly true that being on the receiving end of a landleech rentdue notice has ended my ability to relax, which, sucks if true. The chronic pain bs is definitely cutting into my spoon supply. But more broadly it feels like what small scraps of emotional regulation I had just disappeared. My journal entries all look like Nevada paragraphs, and while your Ash will usually sprinkle in Nevada-esque embellishments because the orange book is her entire personality, if she starts writing entire paragraphs of weird dejected overly emotional snarky bullshit, that may be indicative of a problem! catgirl-sorry

    It could be withdrawal from a single 37.5mg tab of tramadol causing this too, which I am having muscle twitches and shit, but Idk if “bawling your eyes out at the slightest provocation” is a tram withdrawal thing, it’s been like four days or so. If yes I hate it.

    I’m also bad at time management, I am told, which is true because I have some kind of brain issue where I haven’t been reading Psycho Nymph Exile enough. Mostly making time for reading takes effort, and also bending my brain around weird things takes effort :3 so it’s been a few days and I need to YELL AT MYSELF to read gay slop.

    TL;DR my feet hurt I wish I had spoons! catgirl-flop