• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      For some people FDR is the closest thing they can imagine to be progressive politics. The progressive-conservative switch in the Republican and Democratic Parties always makes for weird statements. You’ve got neo-nazis and neo-confederates controlling the Republican Party and Republicans say they are the party of Lincoln.

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        Lol, maybe that’s what progressives need to do just invade Republican politics and take IT over!

        Switch the sides again!

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          Might be easier than getting Democrats to treat progressives as valued members of their constituency.

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          That’s what Democrats have been trying to do since Bill Clinton. The Republicans have already been captured by the MAGA movement, where as the Democrats have yet to be captured by a movement. So for progressives and socialists, it should be easier to capture the Democrats.

          It’s like pokemon. =p

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if Tankies unironically liked Democrats better when they were the KKK.

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        GIven that I’ve had Tankies try to tell me the fight for LGBT rights isn’t worth it because it’s a “distraction” and “actually racist to force other cultures to conform to Western Values”

        Yeah…

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                Anyone who uses the word “tankie” as a pejorative is a dumbass and needs to touch grass. Same goes for people who defend people’s use of the word “tankie”.

                The term tankie is used to vilify leftists and sow division amongst leftists. It is also used by chronically online liberals to describe anyone who is left of center.

                Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

                • It’s used as a pejorative for authoritarian “leftists”, e.g. people who could barely be considered left-wing and have more in common with right-wing authoritarians, and who praise authoritarian governments like Russia/China.

                  Other people on the left don’t want to be associated with that shit, and rightfully so.

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                    It used to be. The meanings of words change over time

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                    Centrists call anyone to the left of Manchin a tankie, regardless of their actual positions.

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                  Tankies aren’t leftists, they’re state capitalists which is an even stupider version of capitalism than the normal kind. Even the Chinese abandoned you foolish tankies.

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        With how eagerly centrists have been throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus, it’s clear that they bitterly regret the civil rights act and the voting rights act because they cost the party the support of the bigots they love dearly.

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            Give 'em time. This last election cycle they got Muslims, the undocumented, and trans people.

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              Dems didn’t overturn affirmative action.

              Dems didn’t kill the police brutality bill in 2020.

              Dems aren’t the ones fighting tooth and nail to keep confederate flags and statues up.

              It’s pretty obvious to me whose tryna to throw black people under the bus.

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                If you think they won’t abandon you in order to chase nonexistent gettable Republican votes, look at who they already abandoned.

                Republicans are obviously worse and I never said they weren’t. That doesn’t mean that Democrats are reliable allies, because unless your name is Netanyahu, they just aren’t.