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People are still using that dumpster of a platform?
People who have a large following and magic emojis next to their name will keep using it because it gives them their validation. Twitter celebs are really in a sad state of existence
Elon Musk is an actual Nazi and anyone who still uses twitter is sus imo
I got so confused reading this, my brainy hurt :(
Being on Twitter must be exhausting
Id rather slam my penis in the door of a luxury sedan than ever go back on twitter.
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it very much is
There’s a reason she’s got drug problems and Twitter is part of that reason
@pizzaiolo @epicspongee I used to use Twitter all the time before it got to a point where I couldn’t stand it anymore, and I felt like a weight had been lifted off of me after I deleted the app.
Some people really need to fucking log off and find a lesbian to marry
Yes.
it’s such an unfunny joke I had to read it three times to even understand what she was trying to say
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😤
It’s pointing out hypocrisy. But people have forgotten that or are just ignorant? I can’t see how you’d come to that conclusion unless you were very “both sides”.
I’m a level seven enlightened centrist. I wait in line at polling stations just so I can fill out a blank ballot.
I didn’t post it because her joke was funny lol
I figured, it just had me
I have an issue when the same people who were cheering during the Bush years, gave grudging acceptance at drone strikes during Obama, and were silent during the Trump years, pipe up and say drone strikes are bad now.
Progressives have been saying this the whole time.Also, a reminder that Obama tried to write regs limiting the use of drone strikes at the end of his presidency. Trump promptly threw them out on entering.
Also, a reminder that Obama tried to write regs limiting the use of drone strikes at the end of his presidency
That doesn’t sound good.
Drone strikes are the holy grail of the military-industrial complex. They are cheap to run meaning that the air force doesn’t have to give them a huge budget yet consume precision bombs and missiles at a steady rate meaning that the weapon industry get a secure revenue stream. And they can be scaled up almost infinitely since there is no bad news coverage of wounded veterans or crying widows on us television.
As always, when a Republican does something, it’s good and just. When a Democrat does literally the same thing, they’re the devil incarnate.
Loyalty over principle.
Its great that the Obama post got her dunked on by Ethereal Bisexual
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Uhhh let me date here
Such an annoying reckless behavior to publicly Call Out a community you’re supposedly part of like this. Every time someone does this, I get a clear mental image of a dog licking its own ass. Just shut up, having random slapfights and compulsive arguing are childish zoomer traits
Time for her to make another 4 hour video about how she was 1984’d into deleting a tweet.
That would require her making a video
Well, that escalated quickly
that joke is so overused i don’t even think the libs over at r/politics finds it funny anymore
Libs on /r/politics only make jokes about the Ork-shaped Slavic Brainpan and how many indictments Trump is currently under.
I used to think it was funny just because it WAS absurd that Hannity (it was Hannity right?) made a big deal out of Obama ordering “fancy mustard” and therefor being unAmerican. I thought it was a good commentary on conservative media’s weird tics. But once I noticed that libs were using it (and tan suit jokes) just as much to absolve Obama of having “real controversies” and not just making fun of Fox News, it lost its edge for me.
ETA: Also its really corny of Contra to engage in such an overused joke, beyond how lib she’s being its also just really gauche.
It may be gauche, but it is certainly not de gauche
She’s actively regressing into a chud.
Wealth and connections often bring out the worst parts of people.
Tan suit Dijon mustard
was amusing until I realized how much of politics is theater. It was just too blatant this time, but so much of American news is only slightly more serious than Dijon mustard.
I mean. It definitely carries the implication that Obama has done very little wrong whether or not you intended it that way. Natalie’s inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or she thinks that the murderous actions he took were justified.
I think, still, it’s a reflection of what the conservative media at the time was making a big deal about. It wasn’t the drone strikes or war crimes, it was the tan suit that was run on Fox for several weeks.
It’s like they never gave a shit about civilian deaths. Ever.
sure, but I’m not convinced the people making the jokes care any more about civilian deaths, either.
Or she is just pandering to her liberal audience
Since she basically stopped making content, I’m a little surprised she still has an audience. Like so many otherwise curiously influential and interesting people, she’s doomed herself to drowning in the social media space when everyone would be better off (her most of all) if she just logged the fuck off.
She does streaming, I think.
I agree they all should log off instead.
Studied Philosophy as a PhD. That’s one of the biggest flaws a human could have.
It’s not really hard is it? “Yeah people are right about this.” and then growing from it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that from her, not a single time. Everyone is always wrong except her, it is always the internet’s fault, and she is perfect and right about everything.
I have much more respect for people like Noah Samsen who has made mistakes with epic debatebros and just owned up to it like “Yep engaging with them was a mistake I shouldn’t have done it and won’t be in future”. Just fucking learn from things ffs. Grow.
Natalie’s inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or
I don’t think that that is a flaw she has is in question at this point tbh
I am thankful that I touch grass enough to not know what any of this means
Natalie should know better. But also… the really nasty shit under Obama was heavily under-reported and only ever seemed to penetrate media in a select few circuits. Casually tossing off a “What even did Obama do that was so bad?” is almost forgivable if you’re not a terminally online 30-year-old who makes hour long YouTube videos about politics, history, and culture.
For me, it’s someone that savvy casually dropping a “both sides” comment. If I didn’t know better I’d assume it was bait. Its hard to imagine that level of cluelessness.
Am I reading this wrong? I assume Natalie is making a joke about how people under report Obama’s nasty shits
I think she’s joking about how people over-report his trivial shit. But it can be read as blithely ignoring the monstrous crimes Obama did commit while in office, because it echoes a lot of the liberal apologia of the administration that amounted to “The worst thing Obama ever did was wear a tan suit”.
While I don’t think she has talked about Obama’s war crimes or things adjacent to it, I find it hard to believe that she would be saying that seriously especially the both sides part. Tho her response to the criticism doesn’t make it better.
You’re reading it wrong, she’s stating you can’t make a moral equivalence between Obama and, say, Trump or something because supposedly the worst things obama did were silly.
why do contras posts always end up this way lmao
It’s her curse.
can someone please explain why the word rule appears in titles so often
its a
thing from /r/196Ok, so it looks like stormfront is a website that promotes white pride. It sounds like there might have been a subreddit at some point based on that stormfront image.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stormfront
And /r/196 is a leftist meme posting subreddit that is trans friendly.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=r%2F196
I’m using non-reddit links because I don’t want to direct traffic to reddit.
Can you help me find a source that shows, stormfront, a white pride website, influenced the 196 rule please? This seems like an important point to learn more about. I’ve been googling, but I haven’t found any connection yet.
“Trans friendly” is a weird way to say creepy chasers, the amount of overt sexualisation and objectification of trans people from non-trans people there is horrendous.
You’re reading too hard into the reddit=stormfront thing. It’s just a common leftist refrain off-reddit because 90% of the site is pro-nato white supremacy and nationalism even if a handful of communities might be slightly less bad.
most of the posts there make my skin crawl. im basically a boomer at this point in the trans community (10+ years transitioned), younger trans people really need to learn what fake allies look like. just because theyre nice/sexualize you doesnt mean they actually support you. i know when the world hates your guts the bar is low, but you need to make that bar high for your own good.
r/196 kinda gives me Vaush vibes in that way (and also in the radlibbiness ofc)
Redditor trying to decipher the bit:
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I think you should be more judicious about who you’re dunking on tbh. This person seems well intentioned enough.
ETA: I take this back.
when the precog hits
What does your ETA acronym mean? I usually read “ETA” to mean “estimated time (to) arrival”…
Edit to sdd
This person seems well intentioned enough.
[edit]: I take this back.
Lol
196 was creepy and chaser-y about trans folks?
Also the
emoji is just making fun of how openly or (poorly) covertly white supremacist reddit is in general.196 was creepy and chaser-y about trans folks?
Not from what I’ve heard. edit:spacing
The vaush meme subreddit creeped me out.
What was that subreddit about? =/
196 had extreme crossover with the vaush sub, I think mods too? Either way I got banned for shittalking NATO there over 3 years ago and haven’t bothered to check in since.
196 kind of was chasery at first but got less chasery as time passed
Ah, gotcha
And /r/196 is a leftist meme posting subreddit that is trans friendly.
Back when i still visited reddit, i got bullied pretty hard by them for pointing out that it’s latently transphobic, assimilationist and toxic to shit on the way r/traaaaaaaa was inclusive of trans catgirl culture. They had an entire thread on how the memes on r/traaaaaaa were cringe and unfunny and it was full of latent bigottry like that. Made them sound like a bunch of chuds and truscums. r/196 also has a not insubstantial amount of chasers. Fetishizing us and talking about your favorite trans porn while dismissing the opinions of trans women as cringe isn’t trans friendly, it is objectifying and shitty and r/196 can go fuck itself.
I only know about r/196 what I’ve read about it from other sources. You’ll be happy to know we don’t do that here. This is a trans friendly space.
heavy-handed moderation to keep it that way is a good idea. if someone engages in soft transphobia/chaser shit, warn and ban – don’t leave room for debates about how much trans positivity is too much.
I hope i can take your word for that, it’s generally what i’d expect of a place called
zone, too. I’m just voicing my own experiences with the reddit sub.
Its a hexbear joke to call reddit stormfront
I think stormfront the user, Stormfront the right wing website, and Stormfront the Apple store are all 3 seperate entities.
I think you got them mixed up. I hope you mixed them up and they aren’t somehow connected anyway.
I honestly know very little about Stormfront, beyond what I’ve googled. I don’t support white pride groups. I have seen people referencing it on Lemmy though.
it’s a joke about reddit’s tendency towards racism and other bigotry, not the literal stormfront website.
I won’t contest that racism and bigotry existed on reddit. It definitely did. I also experienced and saw kindness and acceptance. Saying Reddit in its entirety is racist is really no different that saying everyone is racist. And not everyone and not everyone on reddit is racist.
I won’t contest that racism and bigotry existed on reddit. It definitely did. I also experienced and saw kindness and acceptance. Saying Reddit in its entirety is racist is really no different that saying everyone is racist. And not everyone and not everyone on reddit is racist.
reddit is full to the brim liberals and liberals are at best fascist enablers, at worst - especially when foreign politics are involved - they are fash-lite, consciously or otherwise
hence the stormfront joke
yeah its a joke making fun of a large portion of reddit
you’re giving real “all lives matter” vibes with this response
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it’s about the platform and the majority membership, not a judgment of every community that exists there. there are quite obviously cool corners on reddit, but the platform as a whole defends bigotry as free speech, at an admin level.
It’s a long running hexbear joke to compare Reddit to stormfront given how racist and white it was
That’s why the emoji booty used is called :reddit-logo :
I see, thanks.
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Who was the person who killed salve owners? I honestly do not know the history of the original sub.
It’s a joke to dunk on Reddit, it’s become part of our parlance so we tend to drop it pretty casually. I can see how it comes across as accusatory here, but I think the user probably didn’t mean anything by it.
That seems to be the case. Other people are indicating it was joke and not even one directed at on 196. It’s certainly new to me anyway.
its because there used to be a stormfront subreddit on reddit for like 10 years or something before it got banned, and that was their logo.
/r/196’s thing is its a “rule” that you have to post something whenever you visit the sub. And most people post “rule” when they do so.
This comm is just reusing the tic.
It’s a redditor habit.
Observation selection bias is an easy one the GOP likes to take advantage of. Eg: not testing for covid to show covid went down.
Also: drone strike civilian casualties.
Not testing for covid to show it went down is the current strategy of the Biden admin
Lol. Look at this galaxy brain equivicating there start of a pandemic with an endemic with vaccine.
I mean, obviously the covid hospital occupancy rates would be identical if the actual case rate was the same.
Oh wait…
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations
What’s that? Less then 10k vs over 140k? Definitely the exact same situation! /s
Don’t trip over yourself making excuses now
Hospital rates are down because we killed a lot of people and the rest aren’t being recorded as covid.
I know people who very recently have caught and have had their bodies permanently damaged by this disease within the last few months, one of them being a family member who did everything right, so the whole “lol no big deal it’s endemic now” shit is really fucking depressing, ngl. It kind of handwaves away a very real pain people are going through.
Yeah because it’s too late now. Covid has become just another disease spreading around now. If people actually wore masks and got vaccinated we could have eradicated it but now it’s like the flu where it changes to quickly to manage.
Which was the whole point of the quarantine and masks and social distancing but god forbid Sarah doesn’t hang with her besties and John doesn’t get to party on the weekends
If people actually wore masks and got vaccinated we could have eradicated
Not really, there was no chance of us eradicating covid. Covid spreads well even among the masked and the vaccinated. We could only slow it down.
but now it’s like the flu where it changes to quickly to manage
It was like that from the start, there were multiple competing strains of covid right from when it was first discovered since it had already been spreading for at least 2 months at that point and was all over the world.
Covid was always going to become endemic.
Yeah, eradication was never a goal. It was always about slowing the spread so hospitals would hopefully not get overwhelmed.
Also: drone strike civilian casualties.
When did they change how they count civilian casualties? I heard it was under Obama’s administration, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
There is quite the back and forth between Democrats pushing for accountability and the GOP pushing against.
From Wikipedia, which has all the references one might need:
"On July 1, 2016, President Barack Obama signed an executive order requiring annual accounting of civilian and enemy casualties in U.S. drone strikes outside war zones (“Areas Outside of Active Hostilities”), and setting a deadline of May 1 each year for the release of such report. However, soon after taking office, President Donald Trump designated large areas in Yemen and Somalia to be “areas of active hostilities,” thus exempting them from disclosure. The Trump administration also ignored the 2017 and 2018 deadlines for an annual accounting, and on March 6, 2019, Trump issued an order revoking the requirement. "
The executive order:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2017-title3-vol1/pdf/CFR-2017-title3-vol1-eo13732.pdf
Trump recinding the order:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/trump-civilian-casualties-rule-revoked.html
Plus some other dumb shit by Trump:
"During the Obama administration, proposed U.S. drone strikes in locations outside active war zones (i.e., in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia) required high-level approval. The Obama administration process for approving drone strikes in such locations featured centralized, high-level oversight, based on intelligence about individuals suspected of terrorism activity. Obama’s approval was required for every strike in Yemen and Somalia, as well as “the more complex and risky strikes in Pakistan” (about one-third of the total as of 2012), and insisted on deciding whether to approve a strike unless the CIA had a “near certainty” that no civilian deaths would result.
…
October 2017, Trump abolished the Obama-era approval system in favor of a looser, decentralized approach, which gave the military and CIA officials the discretion to decide to launch drone strikes against targets without White House approval. "
All sorts of references corroborating those summary:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/
The short version is: Obama demanded accountability and his approval. Which did not exist before and was revoked after. Hence, the different counts of casualties is not representative of an actually difference. Only representative of the GOP being shit.
