• FaeDrifter
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        Trans people don’t need 4 pronouns including things like “Fae” and “Doe”, or by “trans” you are you referring to “trans-species” people?

        I’m not yet open minded on trans-species, I’ll grant you that.

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        Trans rights are a liberal value. You can call yourself a liberal or a “maga leftist”, but that just means you’re lying about what you call yourself.

        You’re just muddying the waters like a misinformation troll.

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          Trans rights are a liberal value

          Seemingly not based on your comments, fuck off out of our instance

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            I’m not even a liberal, but y’all are so chronically online and accustomed to being in a little echo chamber you can’t talk to anyone rationally.

            I’ve never met a trans person IRL who needs me to remember 4 pronouns, or needs pronouns like “Fae”, but say something on Hexbear and you’re instantly transphobic liberal Hitler.

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                So silly, I live in an exceedingly queer part of a city and work in a business that is all queer people, so about 1/5 of everyone I work with is trans.

                As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

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                  As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

                  This tells more about you than about the people you interact with. A person I worked with was telling me and a trans ally he never heard someone complain about what pronouns he uses (in a meeting in which we spoke out against a transphobic suggestion he made). He was quite sure of himself and didn’t want to hear what we said. Even after we did make that semi public he stood his position, which is funny since my ally did actually demand in public to be recognized with the correct terms and name.

                  People didn’t feel save around him. In my environment trans people and plenty of others are giving you pronouns, but then again I am not outside the scene, am I?

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                    neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing

                    I guarantee the chud that said this likes to call people NEETS while either projecting from a basement or smugly sits comfortably upon their parents’ boat dealership money and does chores sometimes to “earn” it.

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                    I’m willing to consider that I’m wrong about this. But at some point it’s just an issue of practicality. How many neopronouns do you need to have memorized for work? How many neopronouns is reasonable?

                    I find it very reasonable to remember male/female/nonbinary pronouns for everyone I work with.

                    But if I had to remember a special neopronoun for every single individual, I wouldn’t be able to finish a work conversation. I would probably stop using pronouns altogether, and just use their name. At that point, what’s the point of pronouns?

                    So I really want to know, how many neopronouns do you need to remember, and how many neopronouns do you think you’re reasonably capable of remembering?

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                    I love you but please turn off your phone or give me a dall. I cannot support hate. Please stop this. I know this isn’t your heart

                    I wish I never knew this reference yea

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              columbo So you say trans rights are a liberal value right? Ah yes of course, that checks out.

              I’ll be going now. Actually, just one more thing, it’s probably nothing - didn’t you just say you don’t consider yourself a liberal?

              thinking-about-it

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                I have many liberal values but I don’t identify as a liberal.

                Liberalism had its place in pushing the envelope of progressivism for a while, but it’s not good enough.

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                  Well you’re obviously not a socialist, and you’re not a liberal, so that means you’re either a libertarian/conservative or some secret fourth thing, so please enlighten me, what are you?

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                  it’s not good enough.

                  Correct. Liberals have a tendency of equivocating the issue of human rights. Like you enjoy doing.

                  Please tell me you think the homeless are the real landlords so that we get the full triad of American Liberalism out of you.

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                    I would 100% agree that America fundamentally invented fascism.

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          You can call me a MAGA Leftist if you want, but that’s because you’re a misinformation troll.

          damn, you’re such a Liberal you had to respond to me twice about how much of a Liberal you totally aren’t

          trans rights are human rights btw

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          Practice democratic centralism, this means for hexbear shut up and read up on trans rights trans-hammer-sickle trans-dagger. The struggle session was decided and in the better times you would’ve been banned a while ago.

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        No, it’s not trans people. It’s specifically just Hexbear, and it’s because you’ve been a tiny echo chamber so long y’all have lost touch with reality.

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        Damn way to dunk on the entire Hexbear instance.