• Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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    11 hours ago

    I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

    This country was founded by terrorists.

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    They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”

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      The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.

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      It’s not that what Dylan Roof did wasn’t terrorism, it’s that he wasn’t in New York state. Same with that case involving Trump and property values, never would have been charged in Montana for that, everyone knows assessed value and real value are two different things.

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      … and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!

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    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

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      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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      This is kinda the OG definition of terrorism actually. Back when 19th century anarchists invented this hot new direct action political tactic called terrorism. It was all the rage, for a while, but it backfired and increased public sympathy towards the bourgeoisie and the nobility.

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      funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

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        Do you actually have a point? Innocent children slain: bad. Evil leech that has a large part in oppressing us - maybe not so bad.

        Do you really think the dude being white has anything to do with it? Pretty sure “CEO of health insurance company” is a sufficient descriptor and race has nothing to do with it

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    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

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    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

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      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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        The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

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      If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this

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        For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren’t the only elections.

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      If only the American people weren’t addicted to republicans and democrats. This might not happen.

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        Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.

        Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.

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          Step 1 is voting for people who want to change the system - and they do exist

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            Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success

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              Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.

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    Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.

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      Your request has been received by Lobbying, Inc. For fastest service, please have proof of funds available.

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    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

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    As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

    I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

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      On the plus side, maybe this will actually result in some kind of reasonable gun legislation that will trickle down to a reduction of general gun violence. Maybe. Hopefully. Sometimes all it takes is showing the leopard party that their faces are also in danger.

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        No. There haven’t been enough rich people dying to override the NRA propaganda so far.

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          Maybe the CEO’s will start to fight each other.

          Since the guys who gets rich selling guns want to keep doing that, and the other CEOs want to continue existing without bullets in them… Would they start hiring hitmen on each other??

          Now that’s an interesting situation.

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      People aren’t all the same species. People with human bodies come in lots of species on the inside. For example, drag has a pet dragon whose body is human. The world is much more interesting after you realise everyone’s different.

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    That might be a good thing, because making a terrorism charge stick is going to be should in a just world be really really difficult.

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    Unfortunately, the people doing it are the media It’s a quintessential “man bites dog” story. Normally it’s the insurance companies killing civilians. Everyone is going to cover it. The police had a manhunt because it would look ridiculous if they didn’t solve such a high-profile case.

    It’s kind of a symbiotic relationship, the media covers it, the police react harshly, the media covers it more.

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    This is because the Government with Republicans and Neo Liberals are about business interests over the American people. People need to just start sharing their denials from United healthcare every time they right a piece how Luigi is evil. So tired of this bullshit. And here is another thought pro lifers need to start protesting for universal healthcare to be consistent.

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      They’ll make it illegal to share “sensitive information” like healthcare insurance denials, and they’ll punish you for releasing your own sensitive information.

      And then they’ll go after anyone reposting it for violating your rights, they’ll charge them on your behalf regardless of whether you protest that you don’t want to charge them.

      They’ll violate you in weird ways.

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      Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.

      This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.