• Noughmad@programming.dev
    111·
    2 years ago

    Yeah, you can call yourself a leftist all you want, but when 90% of your posts is calling Biden and Zelensky Nazis but you never criticize Putin or Trump, I get certain doubts.

  • BigNote@lemm.ee
    3·
    2 years ago

    Yeah, it’s so strange that people confuse you with a Kremlin bot when you repeatedly spew the same fucking bullshit talking points as the bots themselves.

  • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    2 years ago

    I forgot how ignorant and self-righteous Reddit liberals were. The ones I’ve seen are easily the loudest and dumbest people on this network of federated instances. They have their “conviction” and “is wrong” sliders completely maxed out.

    • Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.ml
      1·
      2 years ago

      I swear to god I’ll buy sync premium if they give the ability to sort by controversial. This is the stupidest more redditesque thread I’ve run into and i don’t want to miss anymore.

        • AnomalousBit@programming.devEnglish
          0·
          2 years ago

          Since you can’t see the irony in your initial comment, let me spell it out for you in a way you might be able to understand:

          You drone on about maxed convictions while being wrong. But, you’re literally doing the same thing that you whine pointlessly about: your original comment is nothing but a shitty, baseless generalized opinion about a large group of people, with zero substance.

          But you keep fighting the fight, big dog!

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          0·
          2 years ago

          In fairness dumb liberals have a hegemonic control of media, government, culture, and public opinion in the US and most of the EU, with the exception being almost entirely fascists.

          I hate to quote a fascist beast like Patton, but; " “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.”

          We don’t have to go looking for liberal ignorance, violence, cowardice, and foolishness. It’s everywhere in every direction.

            • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              0·
              2 years ago

              Not only can 2 things be bad but 2 things can be different degrees of bad.

              I’d rather live in a country where I can openly criticize those in power without risk to my personal well-being and have the possibility for pushing my government towards positive ends.

              Yeah there’s some risk associated with protesting in the US but at least I don’t have to worry about the going to the gulag or a tiananmen square situation.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                0·
                2 years ago

                Yeah there’s some risk associated with protesting in the US but at least I don’t have to worry about the going to the gulag

                Good thing protestors in the US and UK don’t get arrested on flimsy charges or crippled or murdered by cops blob-no-thoughts

              • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
                0·
                2 years ago

                I mean, I should have known you’d regurgitate the propaganda, but it’s always a disappointment anyway. Such a stupid response, too. That’s basically a non-sequitur. For one, there being two evils does not necessitate siding with the lesser. You can acknowledge there are no good guys, and instead pick the position most likely to lead to the least amount of suffering over all. That is and will always be peace, but you blood thirsty natoids just can’t imagine that. Your response is also dumb as hell given that modern Russia is a capitalist state, not the USSR lmao. Bringing up Gulags is a bit like bringing up slave plantations in the USA… except the USSR is actually completely dissolved so its even less relevant. For the record, the US still legally permits slavery in the instance of criminal conviction. Say, sure would be wild if the US disproportionately policed and convicted black and brown people, wouldn’t it? That’d seem like a loophole legitimizing slavery over time! But that’s just whatabouttism so feel free to ignore it like a good little natoid. You’re grossly ignorant regarding tiananmen square as well, but I won’t bother citing anything since you’ll just dismiss it out of hand.

                Instead, I’ll ask what are your thoughts on the repression of Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, Ireland Independence, French Yellow Vests/Public Benefits/Police Racism, and so on and so forth in “Free” and “Democratic” countries? What about the United States having the highest incarceration rate in the world, largely filled with black and brown people subjected to forced labor while in prison? What would happen if your “protest” did more than carry signs in publicly designated and permitted areas? Wouldn’t you be beaten, arrested, and convicted under the fullest extent of the law? So sorry that you’re so cucked you can’t imagine doing more than asking your leaders nicely for change and politely going home when they say no, but real protest is certainly illegal in “Free” Western countries, and if you ever actually engaged in it you’d see exactly how brutal those governments can be.

                Principled communists aren’t unapologetic supporters of every single thing socialist countries do/have done, but we take issue with the nakedly hypocritical framing from Western powers. The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis. You ignorantly reduce entire foreign countries to a single word/event while myopically ignoring the conditions before and after, but hem and haw and whine about nuance and procedure and the necessity of the barbarity around us every day… When you’re not ignoring it outright that is. That’s what makes you a useful idiot to our own system of oppression. It’s an embarrassment.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        Okay just… there’s no such thing as ‘self’ projecting. It’s just projecting. That’s redundant.

        And nothing they said is untrue. What kind of self flagellation is required to just say a type of political person is bad? Do you need permission from a conservative to talk shit about their faults?

    • socsa@lemmy.mlBanned
      0·
      2 years ago

      I’ll take that over believing pig shit memes are reasonable discourse any day.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nl
    1·
    2 years ago

    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Bad is the enemy of good, and right-wingers are bad.

  • Rusty Shackleford@programming.devEnglish
    1·
    8 months ago

    The CCP, the RNC, and the DNC are not your friends.

    Vote your conscience. Always remember to see who’s funding who, who will gain, and who will lose. There are better choices than others, even when confronted by only bad choices.

  • Sleazy_Albanese [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    2 years ago

    Even im weirded out by how thoroughly the left was suppressed on reddit and other platforms. People on reddit only saw themselves mirrored and thought they were the only ones who existed.

  • timicin@kbin.social
    0·
    2 years ago

    i’ve lost track of the number of times this has happened to me since joining the fediverse and part of me wishes i had stayed on reddit to remain ignorant of the of ignorant liberal masses.

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
      0·
      2 years ago

      Pro-Soviet (no longer exist) ≠ pro modern Russia

      Against continued war in Ukraine ≠ pro Russia

          • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
            0·
            2 years ago

            What is worse, a brutal authoritarian empire which tries to occupy Eastern Europe and Central Asia or one that actually does it?

              • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
                0·
                2 years ago

                The Soviet Empire directly occupied every constituent “Republic” as colonies, as well as occupied the Warsaw Pact countries as satellite vassals, and used military force to put down any rebellion from their puppet nations in the Warpac. They denied the people any say in government, subverted unions into agents of the state instead of advocates for the workers, and systematically crushed any domestic political dissent using secret police.

                As to whether I’m okay with consistently applying that? Sure. The last time the US fought a military conflict in order to annex a nation into empire was 1902. The Soviets did it consistently throughout their empire’s existence.

                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netBannedEnglish
                  0·
                  2 years ago

                  Much of what you’re claiming is undermined by the fact that the vast majority of Soviet people voted to keep the USSR. How could that have happened if people had no say in the government, and if the SSRs were just colonies? It’s also undermined by facts like the early USSR letting some former Russian vassals become independent (e.g., Finland), successive Soviet constitutions granting more and more power to SSRs and national groups, and the steady rise in living conditions under the USSR/the sharp decline in living conditions after its dissolution.

                  And if you’re serious about applying those same standards to every country, you’d see the U.S. as one of the most evil countries in the world. Our treatment of black Americans and American Indians was literally a model for the Nazis, and eclipses the scale and severity of even the most fevered anti-communist propaganda. We’ve fought wars of aggression all over the Global South. We’ve strangled popular anti-colonial movements in their crib and kept them down by backing murderous dictators. We illegally monitor as much of our citizens’ communications as possible, have extrajudicially assassinated opposition leaders, have attempted to blackmail opposition leaders into killing themselves, violently repress even peaceful left-wing protests (while providing police escorts for Klan rallies and Proud Boys), hell, the Chicago PD was running a black site torture operation.

                  But I’m guessing you don’t take that part seriously, otherwise you’d have questioned whether such an evil country – that’s militantly opposed every communist movement since before the USSR even existed – is a reliable source on the shortcomings of communist states.

            • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              0·
              2 years ago

              Take a deep breath. As someone who’s been in your shoes, this may not click right away.

              Every single thing you’ve ever heard, learned, watched, or read about another country that was ever an enemy of the united states has been some version of an exaggeration or a lie. You live in the most intense propaganda machine that has ever been created. You live in the most intense surveillance state that’s ever been created. You live in the biggest, richest empire that has ever been created.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          0·
          2 years ago

          It is?

          Remind me during the cold war, which countries were on the side of pro independence anti colonial movements in Africa, and which countries were pro colonisation and pro apartheid? I’ll think you’ll find that more often than not, the USSR was on the side of anti colonial independence movements, and that the US and Western Europe were on the side of the pro colonial forces.

          Even if the USSR only supported anti colonial movements out of pure self interest and cynicism, it’s a hell of a lot better than supporting colonialism and neocolonialism like the USA and Western Europe did back then during the cold war.

      • ArcticLynx@feddit.deEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        if you don’t want ukraine to defend itself, you’re giving putin exactly what he wants

      • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        The history of the Soviet Union is not great BTW

        Also tankies do in general support Russia

        I’m not saying all leftist are tankies (I’m a leftist) but what I am saying is that all tankies claim to be leftist while simultaneously supporting fascist and their imperialism.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        0·
        2 years ago

        True, but some tankies refuse to believe that. They’re literally pretending that Christofascist dictator Putin is a good communist 🤦😂

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
              0·
              2 years ago

              TONS of it. In fact, given that a tankie is by definition someone who is in favor of enforcing a system of equality by utilising oppression (the term stems from when the USSR sent tanks to stop Yugoslavia from establishing a more progressive form of communism than that of Moscow), I’d say that tankies have a 100% idiot overlap.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    0·
    2 years ago

    In order to counter the Trump bot accusations going on this thread:

    The Trump appointed Supreme Justices are conservative stooges that are clearly just trying to ram through as much conservative stuff into the justice system as they can. The cagey abortion rights the US enjoyed (though sometimes not in practicality) were abolished, which is bad. There were in fact a lot of posts about this on hexbear at the time it was happening. You can now search this if you so desire.

    Trump escalated sanctions against Cuba. This comes up from time to time, but he’s obviously not in a position to directly affect this at this precise moment, though the cudgel of “swing state” Florida Cubans is used to avoid any de-escalation.

    Trump-supporting state legislatures are escalating attacks against trans people, both as a practical threat (bigots can attack trans people under the assumption that their state’s law enforcement won’t do anything about it) and as a legal escalation to remove any federal protections for trans people. This is also bad. Trump is also partly running on this. This comes up frequently on hexbear.

    Trump didn’t succeed in the wall (which itself has had varied response amongst his supporters), but he did increase funding for ICE, expanded detention camps etc. This comes up when it’s in the news, but Trump specific policies don’t tend to be news regarding this right now for some reason.

    Trump’s tax cuts for certain sectors and the ultra-wealthy. idk why you’d think hexbear would support this?

    and so on

    I’m not sure why I’m doing this. I’m not sure why people are surprised that a news aggregation and commentary site tends to talk about things that are currently happening as opposed to things that happened three years ago.

    • _wintermute@lemmy.world
      0·
      2 years ago

      Not sure what you mean. Reddit is like ignorant liberal mecca. So many corporate dem supporters there that would much rather engage in (an endless void of culture war nonsense) gender politics than class politics. The liberals that don’t even realize they’re right of center and that being offended for someone doesn’t make them a progressive or a leftist (or even a good person). They also love the aid to Ukraine. Clownshow.

      Edit: looks like lemmy.world is next in line to be ignorant liberal mecca.