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Blahaj.zone is a fucking disaster. I don’t remember any user accounts from that place who comment with any sort of sanity. It’s like the lemmygrad of the LBGTQIA+.

What are we, chopped liver?

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    3 months ago

    I don’t really understand why people feel the need for neopronouns.

    To be fair, the word “she” split off from the pronoun “he” in Old English a long time ago, but it used to be a completely different variant of the he pronoun. (hēo)

    But of course, today, I don’t think anybody would tell someone who uses she/her pronouns that she should just use he/him because “why would you feel the need for anything else.”

    So with that context, I don’t believe it’s terribly unexpected for people to use neopronouns that are effectively split off from existing language.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not disputing the validity of neopronouns or anything, and I appreciate you trying to help me, but I must say I don’t agree with your argument, but that probably because of my own experience.
      If I lived in a world where the only pronouns were he/him then I doubt I would ever think to use they/them. That’s the part that confuses me, it doesn’t seem like a gradual linguistic change, but rather an individual decision. I feel like there must be some good theory on the subject. Leslie Feinberg helped me understand trans stuff much better, is there some similar text for neopronouns?

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        is there some similar text for neopronouns?

        I’m unfortunately not aware of any in particular, since my personal field of knowledge around the general subject hasn’t been terribly focused on neopronouns specifically.

        f I lived in a world where the only pronouns were he/him then I doubt I would ever think to use they/them.

        I can understand that, but do remember that this is the exact world that people who now go by she/her pronouns lived in, and they didn’t have those new pronouns to go by… until they did. And of course, since all language is made up, it’s not like the terms created themselves, somebody had to start by aligning themself with the terms.

        So I think that:

        but that probably because of my own experience.

        Is more likely to be the reason why it simply doesn’t feel like you’d use they/them, had those been neopronouns.

        He/him was just more expansive, and covered practically everything, so I’m assuming it’s less likely that any given individual would have wanted to switch to a neopronoun, whereas today, pronouns like he/him, she/her, and even they/them can have more societal connotations and expectations, which can feel restrictive to some individuals, thus neopronouns act as a way to break out of things like gender stereotypes even further, at least based on how I understand those who tend to identify with them based on personal anecdotal, and some light literary experience.