You say this, but all I hear (at least on Lemmy) is that the reason Hillary (and Kamala) lost is that they were appealing to conservatives too much, trying to pull their votes instead of unifying democrat voters.
Hillary is an economically conservative, socially liberal, pro-business politician, like her husband. Very center. Her loss was different from Kamala’s; Hillary actually won the popular vote, and lost only because the electoral college is weighted so heavily in favor of the GOP. If she’d not have made a couple of pretty major gaffs (the open mike SNAFU did her no favors and the aforementioned comment about destroying the oil & gas industry among them) she could have been the first woman US president.
Kamala’s problems were different. Geopolitics worked against her, and by then the GOP had their playbook down pat. She had a hard time really solidifying the left, and maybe she’d indeed have done better if she’d focused more on appealing to progressives, instead of taking them for granted. She was never going to pull votes from Trump’s base; all that was just wasted energy.
I strongly disagree with any statement that Biden’s and her positions on Israel did her any harm. What votes she’d have picked up from the anti-genocide folks would have been swamped by the utter destruction the AIPAC would have wreaked on her. Just the sheer number of dollars they’d have poured into attack campaigns, and while I know that a lot of Jewish folks in the US don’t agree with what the Israeli government is doing, I suspect that, as a block, the majority still leans heavily in support of (or defense of) Israel.
I honestly don’t know why Kamala lost; it was her race to lose, and she did. Maybe if she’d leant more left it’d have helped, but I don’t know.
And you can’t gauge anything political by what you see on Lemmy. With a few notable exceptions, Lemmy leans far left, by a large, vocal majority. Of you’d have bet on this last election based on the sentiment on Lemmy, you’d have list your shirt; despite being critical of the pro-Israel stance, only trolls argued that Trump would be a better outcome for Palestine.
You say this, but all I hear (at least on Lemmy) is that the reason Hillary (and Kamala) lost is that they were appealing to conservatives too much, trying to pull their votes instead of unifying democrat voters.
Kamala might have.
Hillary is an economically conservative, socially liberal, pro-business politician, like her husband. Very center. Her loss was different from Kamala’s; Hillary actually won the popular vote, and lost only because the electoral college is weighted so heavily in favor of the GOP. If she’d not have made a couple of pretty major gaffs (the open mike SNAFU did her no favors and the aforementioned comment about destroying the oil & gas industry among them) she could have been the first woman US president.
Kamala’s problems were different. Geopolitics worked against her, and by then the GOP had their playbook down pat. She had a hard time really solidifying the left, and maybe she’d indeed have done better if she’d focused more on appealing to progressives, instead of taking them for granted. She was never going to pull votes from Trump’s base; all that was just wasted energy.
I strongly disagree with any statement that Biden’s and her positions on Israel did her any harm. What votes she’d have picked up from the anti-genocide folks would have been swamped by the utter destruction the AIPAC would have wreaked on her. Just the sheer number of dollars they’d have poured into attack campaigns, and while I know that a lot of Jewish folks in the US don’t agree with what the Israeli government is doing, I suspect that, as a block, the majority still leans heavily in support of (or defense of) Israel.
I honestly don’t know why Kamala lost; it was her race to lose, and she did. Maybe if she’d leant more left it’d have helped, but I don’t know.
And you can’t gauge anything political by what you see on Lemmy. With a few notable exceptions, Lemmy leans far left, by a large, vocal majority. Of you’d have bet on this last election based on the sentiment on Lemmy, you’d have list your shirt; despite being critical of the pro-Israel stance, only trolls argued that Trump would be a better outcome for Palestine.