Where and who are these communists you’re referring to?
I asked like this, because it’s generally a hallucination, as communists have no real power over others, anywhere on this planet. So, it’s a logical impossibility that you could have experienced any kind of censorship done by communists.
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And how have the Vietnamese and Cuban governments censored your speech lately? And what reach would you say they have on social media?
I’m sure you can figure out how google works all on your own. The reality is that no society practices free speech absolutism, and the only question is what type of speech gets censored. I urge you to spend a bit of time educating yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of wasting everyone’s time.
Oh, I understand China enough to know they aren’t communists. Communism isn’t “Whenever the state does things” or “Whenever the state gets bigger”.
I’m sure you can figure out how google works all on your own
I’m sure I can, however, I cannot see any large levers of power either of those governments have over people not inside of their national borders.
And, to be honest, I’m not sure how much either of them are “communist”, since communism requires a stateless society in order to be considered “communist”.
If you understood China at all then you would know that they are in fact communists. But it’s very clear that you have an incredibly superficial understanding of the subject.
I do know what communism is, and I also understand that the fact that we live in a world dominated by capitalism that nations led by communists must exist within. Seriously spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of clowning around here.
If you understood China at all then you would know that they are in fact communists. But it’s very clear that you have an incredibly superficial understanding of the subject.
Ok, I’ll bite. What makes you think China is a communist state?
I do know what communism is, and I also understand that the fact that we live in a world dominated by capitalism that nations led by communists must exist within.
How does one have “nations led by communists” that are fully state-capitalist societies?
Seriously spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of clowning around here.
Oh, I have spent a LOT of time educating myself… Its the main reason I understand that China hasn’t even been socialist since the 1970s or so, Russia hasn’t been a socialist society since the late 1910’s, and the way of the socialist revolution never starts with “Making a state bigger”, because it almost immediately gets usurped for a new set of oligarchs that love using socialist words.
Ok, I’ll bite. What makes you think China is a communist state?
China is a socialist state that established the dictatorship of the working class, and that’s governed by a Communist party that represents the interests of the working majority. Socialism is a transitional stage where the workers hold power in society, but capitalist have not yet been abolished. That’s precisely the stage of development China finds itself in today.
How does one have “nations led by communists” that are fully state-capitalist societies?
I wonder what goes through your mind when you say state capitalism. Capitalism is a system where the means of production are privately owned, and people who own the means of production exploit the workers who sell their labor to increase their wealth. In contrast, state owned industry does not exist to create wealth for a capital owning class, and the work that’s done has direct social value.
Oh, I have spent a LOT of time educating myself
It’s quite obvious that you have not based on the fact that you don’t understand the basics of the subject you’re debating.
Where and who are these communists you’re referring to?
I asked like this, because it’s generally a hallucination, as communists have no real power over others, anywhere on this planet. So, it’s a logical impossibility that you could have experienced any kind of censorship done by communists.
Communists who hold power in China, Vietnam, and Cuba are just few examples.
Communists haven’t held power in China in a very long time… If they did, they wouldn’t be a state capitalist society.
And how have the Vietnamese and Cuban governments censored your speech lately? And what reach would you say they have on social media?
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I’m sure you can figure out how google works all on your own. The reality is that no society practices free speech absolutism, and the only question is what type of speech gets censored. I urge you to spend a bit of time educating yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of wasting everyone’s time.
Oh, I understand China enough to know they aren’t communists. Communism isn’t “Whenever the state does things” or “Whenever the state gets bigger”.
I’m sure I can, however, I cannot see any large levers of power either of those governments have over people not inside of their national borders.
And, to be honest, I’m not sure how much either of them are “communist”, since communism requires a stateless society in order to be considered “communist”.
Like, do you even know what communism is?
If you understood China at all then you would know that they are in fact communists. But it’s very clear that you have an incredibly superficial understanding of the subject.
I do know what communism is, and I also understand that the fact that we live in a world dominated by capitalism that nations led by communists must exist within. Seriously spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of clowning around here.
Ok, I’ll bite. What makes you think China is a communist state?
How does one have “nations led by communists” that are fully state-capitalist societies?
Oh, I have spent a LOT of time educating myself… Its the main reason I understand that China hasn’t even been socialist since the 1970s or so, Russia hasn’t been a socialist society since the late 1910’s, and the way of the socialist revolution never starts with “Making a state bigger”, because it almost immediately gets usurped for a new set of oligarchs that love using socialist words.
China is a socialist state that established the dictatorship of the working class, and that’s governed by a Communist party that represents the interests of the working majority. Socialism is a transitional stage where the workers hold power in society, but capitalist have not yet been abolished. That’s precisely the stage of development China finds itself in today.
I wonder what goes through your mind when you say state capitalism. Capitalism is a system where the means of production are privately owned, and people who own the means of production exploit the workers who sell their labor to increase their wealth. In contrast, state owned industry does not exist to create wealth for a capital owning class, and the work that’s done has direct social value.
It’s quite obvious that you have not based on the fact that you don’t understand the basics of the subject you’re debating.