You guys got your Christianity mixed up with Warhammer 40,000
Tepid take but american “Christianity” is anything but. They completely disregard the teaching of JC and are literally heretical in their beliefs. It’s the worship of Mammon and the American settler project.
I’m sure there are still some people who live by Jesus’s teachings (love thy neighbor as yourself, judge no lest you be judged, compassion for the downtrodden, acceptance of those ostracized by society, beating bankers with a whip, etc) but mainstream “christianity” in America needs a seperate term. Americanity? Americanism?
Ameresy
Amerussy.
Wait. What were we doing?
A lot of Burgerlander “Christians” don’t even know let alone believe in the harrowing of Hell, which is a core Christian doctrine. Burgerlander “Christianity” doesn’t offer a good answer why Jesus had to die on the cross (why did Jesus had to die for our sins and not just say “psych” before ascending to heaven as a final dab against the Pharisees and Romans?) while the harrowing of Hell completely explains why: Jesus had to die so he could go to Sheol, where everybody including all the Old Testament prophets like Moses were stuck in. The idea is that Jesus fooled Satan into thinking that since Jesus can feel pain and even die, he’ll also go to Sheol like the other prophets where he had to submit to Satan. The Saturday between Good Friday and Easter Sunday is Jesus beating the shit out of Satan and freeing everyone in Sheol. That is the real reason why Jesus had to die on the cross.
Holy Saturday is just commemorating when Jesus descended to Sheol and ripped and teared the demons like Doomguy.
I seriously didn’t learn about the Harrowing until I was in my late 20s, despite being raised in the church and later studying a lot of art history (how there aren’t more Renaissance paintings of the Harrowing is beyond me. Shit’s metal as fuck). It doesn’t help Christians’ understanding of Hell is largely based on fanfic, specifically Dante’s Inferno.
I never knew this. Holy shit. I was raised as a US Christian and one of the reasons I became an atheist was because everyone made Jesus sound indifferent to those suffering in hell.
I distinctly asked a leader why, if only people who died after Jesus’ crucifixion are saved, the people who came before and those ignorant of Jesus have to suffer hell.
The answer I got was basically ‘thems the breaks lol’
Somehow I’m not surprised that burgerland “christians” (Ameretics? I seriously need a term for these ghouls) don’t know basic theology. If burgerlanders are willing to file into corporate mega-churches and watch some millionaire preach Calvinism-but-worse to them before they hop into their private jet (it’s for missionary work I swear!) they are truly lost.
If Mary and Joseph were looking for a place to stay they would be hard pressed to find a church in America that would help them. Most would call the cops on those vagrants
Can’t believe I’ve never heard of the harrowing until now
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Theres no hate like christian love.
I haven’t really looked for a full transcript of the sermon, but this is the reported thing she said on her wiki:
“Millions have put their trust in you. And as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving God. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy on the people in our country who are scared now.”
if this is legit what has them furious, it’s so absurdly predictable. there is nothing on this earth that conservative Christendom hates more than being told by a spiritual leader with limited temporal power to be more compassionate and have mercy on the weak during their political triumphs.
a caricature of the devil could show up and start eating babies on main street, and they would ignore it to run a 5 mile obstacle course just for the opportunity to kick an unhoused, unwed mother in the face for making eye contact.
imagine being so weak and fragile in your victory that an appeal to mercy for the powerless sends you and your camp into a rage spiral.
:a-guy: The Council of Nicaea and its consequences have been a disaster for the Christian religion. They have greatly increased the number of Christians who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world.
Hmm…you blame Nicea, when Capitalism is more nascent.
I’m jokingly referring to the union of the Roman State with Christians by Constantine as the ideological source of Christian violence. When Christians use the state to violently suppress doctrine disagreement, as they did with the Arianism, they effectively become the Pharisees they deplore.
Constantine converting to Christianity has the same exact energy as some FBI director going, “Maybe MLK had a point.”
Just don’t look up her opinions on “Israel”…
I’m sure there was plenty of twitter normies spamming “mercy is for the weak!” in response.
sin of empathy
Real psychopathic shit. Absolute fucking scum.
is this just the perversion of prosperity gospel?
God wants you to be rich and hateful.
It’s not a perversion of it. Prosperity gospel is already fucked up as is.
Yeah that’s my point
Being disabled, it’s a lot of fun hearing people telling me just pray about it or spend more time with God and maybe He’ll heal me. Like, no. Sometimes people are just disabled. Don’t guilt me for being born with a wonky brain.
The Lord Works in Prosperous Ways
Not only some wild-ass takes that make any good old-fashioned Christian heretic go
right there, as expected from some dipshit from the state of cults and crackers, but pay close attention to the choice of gendered words.Correction, he’s cranking out over some prelate of the Church of England named Mariann. Firstly, prelate is a pretty neat title it reminds me of star craft. Secondly this all apparently has to do with this lady kicking the Trump-Hive like a few days ago over preaching at him in the middle of her sermon (he was literally there and had to get preached at, that’s silly as fuck lmao) to not be a monster, to which trump brands her a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”
Eh she’s cool in my book.
It’s so funny because she asked for mercy for the meek. Didn’t give an opinion about him - I don’t even think she criticized him. If memory serves she ASKED for MERCY. The spin machine is so mechanical and devoid of substance.
lol doesn’t Trump have most of the qualities described in the Antichrist?
Just further proof that these people cannot read even if it’s their own religion
They definitely do not expect the antichrist to be a white dude.
If the antichrist were brown and queer in a movie people would be all
look at this woke shit!!IN FACT remember all that anger that Lil Nas X inspired with that video where he gives the devil a lap dance?
It was so dumb.
“Everyone keeps calling me a nazi so I’ll be one.” - totally fine logic
“Everyone keeps calling me demonic so I’ll be one.” - OMFG how dare you!?!?!?
Idk, I feel like a lot of them would expect anyone with an important biblical role to play to be a white dude even if it’s an evil one, everyone else can at best be background characters.
Well I remember when Benedict XVI stepped down and several celebrity cardinals were in the spotlight as potential successors, a lot of racists were talking about how one of the Black cardinals was the antichrist.
I had a pastor declare somehow that it was Biblical that the antichrist would be from Persia, so they would definitely be a Middle-Eastern man. Also, since Obama was “definitely” not born in the US, and we all know he’s the antichrist, then he must be Middle-Eastern, and therefore a dirty Muslim. It was wild.
wow this is just like warhammer fourty thousand video game
The stain of suspicion never truly fades
Said it before and I’ll say it again. Fascists view the world as theatre and will gladly fill the role as villain. I’m sure if you press them they’ll even call themselves villains.
They see being ‘vilified’ as a sign of their righteousness in a wicked world. They never have to reflect.
What the actual f?!?!? Is this real? My father was a deacon at our church I spent the first 18 years of my life almost as much at church as at school and I’m pretty sure empathy was never called a sin.
Edit: alright I went to the author he sites and then the article the author wrote and basically as usual with these evangelicals they site old testament only verses where you’re supposed to stone people for doing certain things. They then use this for justifying (along with a large dose of misogyny) their idea that you shouldn’t have empathy for anyone who has (in their eyes) sinned. These people are absolute psychopaths.
Lmao what is the new covenant, stupid shitheads.
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Here’s possibly related context about Baptist infighting on whether empathy is a sin:
https://baptistnews.com/article/have-you-heard-the-one-about-empathy-being-a-sin/
Was asking about this context in the general mega as I’ve seen a lot of right wing weirdos froth at the mouth at the mention of empathy. Guess it makes some more sense now.
To me it makes about as much sense as the people who pretend that Jesus was just talking about extended family when he said love thy neighbour even though he goes on to explain that it includes disliked foreign people in the parable of the Good Samaritan.
My favorite is when they quote “I came not to bring peace, but a sword” to justify violence and militarism.
Lol
I guess that one is probably one of the most creatively interpreted pieces of the Gospel, right? Couldn’t possibly just be about how all the radical stuff Jesus was asking followers to do was gonna lead to conflict, nah it’s about killing brown people.
It should be more interpreted in the way that Christianity will divide people and cause conflict due to religious divisions. Not that Jesus calls for eternal deus vult ave terra emporer protects the faithful.
Aye, in all my life I’ve always heard it taught that way too. Someone who actually behaves in a Christlike manner is bound to bring conflict because most men worship Mammon, very few actually worship God. Funny how different American Catholicism (and to a lesser extent other denominations, LatAm protestants are a land of contrasts) seems to be from what we get everywhere else.
The ironic cherry on top is that in that passage in particular, Jesus is saying thay following him will cause disruption between you and your family members. And if you have to choose between him and them, you must choose him.
I say “ironic” because American Christians base so much of their religion on “the family” and having kids, but Jesus was ambivalent at best about families.
Oh, so they’re not even hiding that fact that their doctrine is psycopathy
Yoooo they’re deranged
Jesus was just talking about extended family
I think this misconception comes from the commandments, which are basically only talking about members of your own tribe. “Thou shalt not kill” only applies to the ancient Hebrews it was talking to. So later on when God commands them to raze and plunder pagan cities, they aren’t committing sins.
Then Jesus comes along and creates a new covenant, but doesn’t reject the commandments outright. So there’s a discrepancy between Jesus telling his followers to obey God’s laws and telling them not to pillage pagan cities. Of course, this misinterpretation is deliberate among reactionaries, because it’s pretty obvious Jesus’s commands supercede the Old Testament, otherwise christians wouldn’t be able to eat pork or wear certain types of clothing.
The way I’ve seen it they’re arguing that people were only living in little villages with essentially their extended families around 0 CE so that is the context it should be seen in. Ignoring that the parable of the Good Samaritan follows as Jesus is directly asked. And that there were many bustling cities around 0 CE.
Do they really think that empathy and compassion is the same as being an enabler? Although knowing them they DO actually think that.
They think that being empathetic with a sinner means being involved with the sin. They think that sympathy and compassion are correct. :::
have you ever touched a bible or do they instantly combust when you try?
Their “god” is a genocidal maniac. So this checks out.
Was going to say most anglo Christians are just genocidal monsters anyway so this tracks.
Empathy is the prophet killer.
Edit:
it’s a double entendre.
Both empathy of which the prophet (i.e. this religious figure) preaches, and profits as in what
preaches the board roomprophetprofitEmpathy is the profit* killer.
An awfully convenient god they got there.
That god asks nothing of them and gives them permission to be themselves, as lazy, arrogant, greedy, and malevolent as they want but since they’re heterosexual and white they’re the good guys.
At least 4chan will admit they’re just evil and are simply acting on their inherent evil nature, but I’m sure they’ll give up the ghost that they’re evil soon enough.
Western christians (especially the evangelical nutjobs) are bloodthirsty maniacs that also exported their bullshit of hate/bigotry/destruction through “missionary work” for one so I can’t say this is surprising.
With 4chan, I’m honestly waiting for them to just drop the pretenses and admit to being satanists with an obviously rehearsed trademark evil laugh.
