It’s fascinating to me how you quote the portion that’s right before
I never care about the day of the month unless I’m caring about the month itself. There’s never a case where I don’t care about the month; in the day-to-day, it’s the most used data point so it goes before the day of the month.
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I thought you were talking about the order of importance. You’d of course put the day first, then the less important stuff, right?
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I’d assume it’s the current month or the next one if that day has been passed. Like you said about the year. I get your idea and it’s smart.
It’s possible we just have different experiences; I find the month is just too short a period for me to assume we’re in the same month. I feel like, when working with dates, I’m rarely in a context where the date is prevalent to the current day (outside of the year); I’m often fielding things a few months old, etc. That’s part of why I tend to find MM-DD-YYYY exponentially more useful.
But, if that’s not your experience, I can see why it’s otherwise. That’s (obviously) fair.
I’m not sure what else I would expect if someone just mentioned the day. If it’s an upcoming event nobody would say just 25th if it’s not the next 25th. It’s the same as with saying Wednesday, you’d assume it’s the next one.
If it’s files or folders, I’d just go with YYYY-MM-DD for the automatic ordering. There neither DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY is very useful since it’ll fuck up the ordering. You’d want some folders and at that point you’re doing additional ordering so it doesn’t really matter what system you use if you bother to set it up.
Oh, for sure but I wasn’t really considering verbal exchanges as part of it (as very few people say the entire date in conversation. Like, in discussing getting coffee, neither person’s expecting “2024, November 3rd” or “3 November, 2024”).
Definitely; like, anything archival is just going to have ISO-8601 make the most sense which is why I’ll freely admit, if we’re choosing a single format for written date, I do think ISO-8601 easily wins out.
But, if I’m dealing with students’ paperwork for the year, I’m probably going to care about the month first. I’d it’s, say, a landlord’s check, day of the month could be used but so could the month, in terms of importance. Looking up an old text? Possibly I might care about the day first but, usually, I’m looking for something old since it’s not fresh in my memory so I’m probably going to care about the month of the text first and the day after. That was my reasoning.
But I still think ISO-8601 wins out – overall –, for sure. I should probably just try to incorporate it into my own life more, by now.
So the actual day?
It’s fascinating to me how you quote the portion that’s right before
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I thought you were talking about the order of importance. You’d of course put the day first, then the less important stuff, right?
I’d assume it’s the current month or the next one if that day has been passed. Like you said about the year. I get your idea and it’s smart.
It’s possible we just have different experiences; I find the month is just too short a period for me to assume we’re in the same month. I feel like, when working with dates, I’m rarely in a context where the date is prevalent to the current day (outside of the year); I’m often fielding things a few months old, etc. That’s part of why I tend to find MM-DD-YYYY exponentially more useful.
But, if that’s not your experience, I can see why it’s otherwise. That’s (obviously) fair.
I’m not sure what else I would expect if someone just mentioned the day. If it’s an upcoming event nobody would say just 25th if it’s not the next 25th. It’s the same as with saying Wednesday, you’d assume it’s the next one.
If it’s files or folders, I’d just go with YYYY-MM-DD for the automatic ordering. There neither DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY is very useful since it’ll fuck up the ordering. You’d want some folders and at that point you’re doing additional ordering so it doesn’t really matter what system you use if you bother to set it up.
Oh, for sure but I wasn’t really considering verbal exchanges as part of it (as very few people say the entire date in conversation. Like, in discussing getting coffee, neither person’s expecting “2024, November 3rd” or “3 November, 2024”).
Definitely; like, anything archival is just going to have ISO-8601 make the most sense which is why I’ll freely admit, if we’re choosing a single format for written date, I do think ISO-8601 easily wins out.
But, if I’m dealing with students’ paperwork for the year, I’m probably going to care about the month first. I’d it’s, say, a landlord’s check, day of the month could be used but so could the month, in terms of importance. Looking up an old text? Possibly I might care about the day first but, usually, I’m looking for something old since it’s not fresh in my memory so I’m probably going to care about the month of the text first and the day after. That was my reasoning.
But I still think ISO-8601 wins out – overall –, for sure. I should probably just try to incorporate it into my own life more, by now.