• BakerBagel
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    7 hours ago

    Complain all you want, but not tipping is straight up taking money from someone who is getting paid $5 an hour. Complain to ownership, write your congressman and state legislators, but not tipping only punishes someone who is barely scrapping by.

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      2 hours ago

      Your opinion is a result of class warfare propaganda, to get working class people arguing with each other. Direct your anger to the employer.

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      5 hours ago

      So, dear reader, notice how whenever defenders of tipping come along, it’s always the same story.

      Oh boohoo my poor minimum wage (which is pegged to the same minimum wage as non-tipped workers in states where most people live).

      Ever wonder why it’s always about the minimum wage and never about how much money they make?

      Any server with 2 brain cells clears $40 an hour in untaxed cash wages every shift.

      They never report it on their taxes, and yet they will cry about their poor wittle wage at every opportunity expecting people that make half their salary to tip them 100% for rudely dropping off a plate once and never coming back, making you wait 20 minutes to close a check.

      Notice the pattern. Remember how I was right next time.

      Ask them if they’d rather abolish tipping next time. Notice how none of them say “yes”.

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        3 hours ago

        I’m 100% on board with ending tipping, i am just saying that stiffing your server won’t do anything to end it.

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      6 hours ago

      Also tipping is for actual table service. If you just hand me some food I’m not tipping you for handing me food.

      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        I recently ordered some parts for an e-vape online. At the payment page it asked for a tip. I was in disbelief. (I didn’t take a screenshot, but in retrospect I should have.)

        No services rendered, no food being made, nobody personally delivering it to my house. But it still wanted a tip, with the explanation that it was “to support our team!”

        Where to even begin…

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      5 hours ago

      I’m tired of this excuse. These people took the job knowing what the pay rate was, and are demanding the customer pay their salary directly rather than the employer like virtually any other conventional job does. Customers have had it, they’re being told to give employees raises along with rising food costs, even at businesses that don’t do a damn thing for the customer except maybe hand them a to-go box. 20% for that? F no. Grow a spine and demand real pay, people have had it. IDK how I can travel almost any modern place else in the world, pay for a good meal, and only have to leave the approximation of $1 or so for appreciation of the service, but in America I pay for the food and a separate charge for the employee’s “pay”.

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        Thrn stop going to restaurants that expect a tip. Don’t go to a restaurant and stiff your server. I spent 6 months last year living on $300 a week because people weren’t tipping at the bar i was working at. The bar is still open, but the new bartender is in the exact same position.

        You don’t take a job at a restaurant or a bar because your life is doing great. You are there because you have no other options.

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          I don’t have a problem with tipping. I have a problem with restauranteurs taking the profits and the customer being asked for more and more tips. I can’t help people’s life situations, and I’m sure they aren’t all down on their luck any more than someone working retail. Yeah, I avoid places that expect big tips, so the servers get no tip at all instead of some tip.

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        3 hours ago

        Believe it nor not, most people do not live in Washington.

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        2 hours ago

        Servers usually have to pay in X% of their total sales to the back of house. So if you stiff me on a $90 check, i lose $3 because i still have to pay that much in. I actually had a slow night where bith tables stiffed me so i actually left the restaurant $4 poorer than when i entered. Because ihad a better night the next shift, the owner was able to average me out so that he didn’t have to pay me more than the server minimum wage.

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      yeah I basically stopped going to restaurants because is screwed either way. It actually used to be something we would do but the norm became wierd and like so many things nowadays it became just drop out of participation.

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        Yeah, I’m not defending tipping in the US, but not tipping is only screwing over the server. You don’t end up working at a restaurant because you love it, you are there because your life is a mess and it’s closest thing you can get to a stable job. If you don’t want to tip, then don’t go out to eat.

        Back in October i had a guy “leave a tip” that said “Kamala bullshit” because he was mad his double of jack and coke cost $8. I don’t set the prices, i also think it’s bullshit, but i was weeknight bartending because I couldnt find any other job.

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          yeah but that is what I meant. We did not want to keep tipping at the old norm if it was under tipping so we just stopped being in the system. I have seen the standard go from 10% to 15% to 20% and thats when we stopped. Through most of it 15 was sorta standard and 10 was like I don’t want to stiff you but our experience was not the best and 20 was like omg you were great. stiffing was like I wish I had not come out and this was a horrible crazy experience. Im really not sure the what would actually have to happen for that as it never came up but maybe doing two nazi salutes or something might cause it.

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      Its unfortunately a catch 22 though because continuing to tip kinda enables it to keep happening if everyone stopped tipping then places would likely have to pay a decent wage in order to get people to work as even if you’re extremely desperate for money its still not really worth it to work for tipped minimum wage with no tips also im not sure if it applies to all places but if your compensation + tips falls below the federal minimim wage the company must pay you the difference if I am not mistaken

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        3 hours ago

        That’s over the course of a pay period though. So if i make $40 on a slow night, but $200 the next night, that evens out and the boss doesn’t have to pay out.

        I am not defending tipping, but change will only happen from the top down. All the full time servers at the restaurant i work at are at “i cant pay my bills” level of struggling right now and we live in a super cheap area. Stiffing your server won’t end tipping, it’s just taking a meal away from them or their kids while the owner is just fine. Legislation is the only thing that will end the system, qnd that’s where the reform needs to happen.

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        2 hours ago

        If there is a magical amount of money you want to receive so you don’t get pissed off at me, just make that the price.