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    14 hours ago

    Do conservatives still believe he isn’t actively trying to destroy the country? Or, worse, believe that a generation of uneducated Americans is somehow going to make us a better country?

    I’m sincerely curious.

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      14 hours ago

      If conservatives could read instead of being dumb as fucking bricks they’d be so angry!

      Let’s see how long it takes until you dumb mother motherfuckers wake up to what you did. I don’t think it’s going to happen, plenty of people you snowflake can continue to blame. Never took responsibility for anything and you won’t start now.

      As a rich white guy my heart goes out to all the people that will be hurt over this administration. And hopefully we can repair everything that will be destroyed. I have very little faith after they elected this orange piece of trash a second time.

      Good fucking job

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      13 hours ago

      I think he’s doing awesome. Closing down the dept of education isn’t going to magically and suddenly make kids ignorant. You realize that he’s not closing schools, right?

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        12 hours ago

        Not magically or suddenly, but deliberately and surely. Do you really think this is about saving money? Wtf do musk and trump care about government efficiency?

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          11 hours ago

          Not magically or suddenly, but deliberately and surely.

          Where? Do you have a list of schools that are being shut down as a result of this?

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            3 hours ago

            ^ This is the level of reading comprehension we can expect even more students to have after finishing school after this

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            11 hours ago

            I didn’t say schools were being shut down. I said that it will result in children being increasingly ignorant. Why do you think that they are shutting down the agency that regulates schools, to save chump change?

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              2 hours ago

              I said that it will result in children being increasingly ignorant.

              How so? What are some examples of children becoming increasingly ignorant?

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                52 minutes ago

                There would be less funding for schools, especially low income, special education, and rural. Less funding means more uneducated children. That is one example, but the DOE manages grants and loans, oversees civil rights and access, and national education standards and data. These are things that increase education accessibility and quality.

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              11 hours ago

              Meanwhile they’re drafting an almost 5 trillion dollar tax giveaway for the richest people in the country.

              Real money saving group they are.

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            11 hours ago

            It’s almost like they were responding to the other bullshit claim you made.

            And your attempt to misdirect is just pathetifc. Do you think people can’t read what you yourself wrote one comment above?

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          11 hours ago

          Without it, certain states can and will say “well this rural town doesn’t really need kids to go to school, they can become factory workers instead.”

          Any news articles that show that schools are closing because the Department of Education is being DOGE’d?

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              2 hours ago

              So if it hasn’t happened, what proof do you have that it will? Why bring it up if it hasn’t happened, and there is no proof that it will happen?

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                2 hours ago

                It’s called being able to follow logical consequences.

                Removing rules that the worst run state education departments have already been trying to bypass, won’t make those school less bad.

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                  It’s called being able to follow logical consequences.

                  The news article doesn’t say that.

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            11 hours ago

            Not that I expect someone like you will care about the actual details but he’s only just done it so it’s going to take time for the effects to be felt. This might go over your head but government agencies are huge and complicated entities and when you rip out the heart it takes a while for the limbs to die. The states with robust economies like California, Texas, Illinois, and New York will be fine but poor states like Arkansas, Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi will be seeing school closings before the end of 2025 of this isn’t stopped.

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              Not that I expect someone like you will care about the actual details but he’s only just done it so it’s going to take time for the effects to be felt.

              So you have no proof. Just predictions. This is a news article, not a prophesy piece.

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                34 minutes ago

                Removing aid and oversite will have predictable consequences. Conservative motivations align with the predictable consequences, so it’s not a stretch to say that people will suffer because of this. You can’t have proof of something that hasn’t happened yet, but you can definitely predict. I would love to be wrong.

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      2 hours ago

      Notice what year that downward trend really got going… Mid pandemic. The worst students, not being physically in the building to keep them focused performing worse is a pretty logical conclusion. Also the insane right wing onslaught against public education and teachers, on top of the abysmal pay, forced out a lot of teachers. Now we have nationwide shortages.