So, my an online american friend said"My mom didn’t want to vaccine vax cuzs autism". Is he joking? I know many people say thing like that but i thought they all were joking?

In my country which is a third world country no one believe shit like that even my Grand mother who is illiterate and religious don’t believe thing like that and knows the benefit of vaccine.

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    Most people? No, definitely not. Most Americans get vaccinated. More people than you would hope? Yeah, absolutely.

    There’s so many people here who have crazy views on health and wellness generally. Juice cleanses. Chiropractic. Homeopathy. Fad diets. Faith healing. I think some of it is because people can’t afford real healthcare, but most of it is anti-intellectualism and propaganda.

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      Yep. There was a solid base pre-Covid that could be built off of as COVID was shown to be as bad as it was.

      I also feel like a lot of vaccine rejection was built on having to justify that COVID wasn’t as bad as people were saying it was.

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        US pharmaceutical companies are straight up evil and we all know it. It’s no wonder why more and more people are skeptical about their products, e en when they are shown to be beneficial to everyone.

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      Most of the western world have free healthcare. But this is an America view so I understand.

      A friend of mine went to hospital like 5 times to check out his belly with various advanced machines and the final bill was equivalent to like 50 dollars. The taxi rides to the hospital cost him more than that. :)

      I think its amazing.

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        I would say that compulsory voting would change things, but lol, it doesn’t. Fuckers vote for the right reasons, the wrong reasons, and just neutral reasons because they don’t give a fuck/care/have time to know. Fairly unrelated, I know.

        I guess the connection is how politicised basic science has become. The dummining is really ramping up.

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      Wait an actual Chiropractor? I’ve been seeing a Chrio for my back for years, in New Zealand that is, found them way better than physiotherapy.

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        Same here, although accidentally. I’m a fairly big guy and the chiropracter wasn’t strong enough to do many of the things he attempted so that was useless. However he used this electrical thing to stimulate the muscles in my lower back that seemed to really help.

        The biggest problem with chiropractors (in the us) is the industry makes too many claims about what it can help with and there aren’t really regulations about what they can medically claim or where the limits are. You’ll find chiropractors who say they can cure anything and there will always be some who believe it. There’s too little science, too few qualifications, way too many claims

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        A good PT will make “chiropractic adjustments” when it’s in the patients best interest. They will also recommend surgery or refer to an MD if drugs will help. Chiropractors will almost never do these things because they make money treating, not curing. If it’s been years, and you’re still seeing them, what have they cured?

        I suffered with what turned out to be a near-herniated disc for years. Tried chiro, tried PT. The difference was the PT kept track of progression, and as soon as I couldn’t progress, sent me for imaging, saw the bulging disc and referred me to a specialist. After a year total of PT, steroid injection, ablative surgery, and recover; I went from being unable to bend down and pick up a sock to doing karate classes with my kid.

        Chiro has its place in a treatment plan, it shouldn’t be the only part of a plan.

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          Kinda makes you wonder if the chiropractor made your situation worse.

          But I did just discover the term vertebral subluxation: We don’t need to see it to know you have it, and we can fix it!

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        In my anecdotal experience chiropractors are often drawn to pseudoscience in the US. The last one my spouse went to was handing out anti-vacc pamphlets to the patients. I’d never seen such aggressively dumb ones before, just the usual scummy claims of being able to cure Crohn’s disease and such.

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          Chiropractors are, by definition, peddlers of pseudoscience.

          D. D. Palmer founded chiropractic in the 1890s,[21] claiming that he had received it from “the other world”.[22] Palmer maintained that the tenets of chiropractic were passed along to him by a doctor who had died 50 years previously.[23

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            Wow, I had no idea. I wonder how many still believe that.

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              Probably very few. But if they’re into chiropractic then they’re susceptible to all sorts of “woo” and I wouldn’t trust any of them with one of my knuckles, let alone my spine.

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        There’s a few people who practice quackery and making bold claims bout magic being responsible for ills and pushing the “HOSPITALS ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU, SPIRIT SCIENCE SAID SO!” conspiracy nonsense, and still get covered by insurance.

        Because they’re technically chiropractors, which do not require an MD.

        And many in America falsely write off ALL of chiropractory as bullshit because throwing out the baby with the bath water is easier than real research.

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          All chiropractors are frauds, full stop. The basis of the field is fraudulent and based on the feelings that feel the feeliest at the moment.