• According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
  • sudneo@lemm.ee
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    Sci-fi writing in here I see

    EDIT: For the downvoters:

    • He clearly didn’t support Trump in general, but he did praise Trump’s pick for the antitrust position.
    • Proton code for the clients is opensource, so it’s not possible to add backdoors without being discovered (encryption happens in the clients).
    • Proton business model is inherently disincentivizing them to do so. They are a profitable company with a clear profile that would lose so many customers if they decide to do so.
    • Proton is incorporated in Switzerland, it’s unclear what the benefit would be to “appease” Trump.
    • Proton is controlled by a nonprofit. In the board of this nonprofit there are people like Carissa Veliz (author of “Privacy is power”) and Tim Berners Lee. So even if Andy Yen was a full on MAGA, he still wouldn’t have autonomy to decide that. Note that he ceded control himself.
    • There is absolutely nothing in the history of Proton that suggests they would be open to backdooring their software.
    • There is a long track record of choices to protect users’ privacy. This also includes yearly substantial donations to nonprofits who work in this space.

    If this is not enough, I don’t know what is, but for sure the baseless accusations of a random user shouldn’t be enough as well.

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
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      7 hours ago

      He clearly didn’t support Trump in general

      lie

      so it’s not possible to add backdoors

      lie

      Proton business model is inherently disincentivizing them to do so. They are a profitable company with a clear profile that would lose so many customers if they decide to do so.

      Didn’t work on you

      Proton is incorporated in Switzerland, it’s unclear what the benefit would be to “appease” Trump.

      Straw man

      So even if Andy Yen was a full on MAGA, he still wouldn’t have autonomy to decide that.

      being a non profit and him owning enough of it to do what he wants are unrelated.

      There is absolutely nothing in the history of Proton that suggests they would be open to backdooring their software.

      https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/

      There is a long track record of choices to protect users’ privacy.

      Tell that french activist they turned logging on for and gave up to the authorities.

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      Yes, what possible benefit could a Swiss company that sells privacy might receive from cozing up to a fascist state?

      Lies about what the CEO said with the official account.

      One of his direct statements btw:

      "10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.”

      Thinks non-profit is anything but a tax status. Hasn’t paid enough attention to all the “non-profit” companies switching to for-profit as soon as it’s financially convenient, much less the “non-profits” that only exist to funnel money to their overpaid executives.

      Doesn’t realize that Proton’s biggest security vulnerability is Proton the organization.

      Fucking lol. Actual clown shit trying to bait people into the honeypot.

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        A long comment that doesn’t say anything.

        Yes, what possible benefit could a Swiss company that sells privacy might receive from cozing up to a fascist state?

        Yes. What? Is Trump going to send them customers? Money directly? What is the benefit. If it is so obvious to you, state it clearly.

        One of his direct statements btw

        Quoted out of context. Yes, he thinks that Republicans are more likely to fight against big tech. Stupid? Naive? Probably. But it still doesn’t mean supporting Republicans in general (or Trump). BTW, don’t take my word for it, he explicitly elaborated that point in a reddit comment.

        Thinks non-profit is anything but a tax status.

        Imagine lol Proton is still a for profit company (tax status muh) but it is controlled by a nonprofit, which means that the steering wheel of the nonprofit company is in the hands of an organization with no profit motive, with a solid board. Now let me hear the mental gymnastic about tax status.

        Doesn’t realize that Proton’s biggest security vulnerability is Proton the organization.

        Again a sentence that doesn’t mean anything. You want to explicitly say what this threat model means? Go ahead. Throwing things like this is pointless.

        Actual clown shit trying to bait people into the honeypot.

        Keep your tinfoil hat, I don’t care. I am not promoting even, I am stating some facts about the fact that it seems very unlikely that Proton will backdoor their encryption for no reason but to please Trump.

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        Yeah, I don’t get if these are Proton PR bots, or they’re just heavily invested in the company and are in denial. They just take that PR, add some flourish then a bunch of unrelated BS.

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          “It is harder to convince someone they have been tricked than to trick them in the first place” and such.

    • chaoticnumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I wanted to reply to your points but someone beat me to it.

      Learn to think critically. Close the app for a day, cool off and re-read all of these replies.

      Do you think we would all just dump on something for the fun of it or just to piss you off? This isnt reddit.

      Cmon man, take a second, look around and understand that the taste of boot leather is not very pleasant. Proton is not here for your privacy … I mean it is, unless you’re a french journalist … or a person of interest for the right people.