A commune or a cult would be better than this circus lol
Already planning on it here in Canada once my friends and I have the money for what we want to do.
Farming (+greenhousing) and some cottage rentals on the side.
Peace out, modern society!
Cottage rentals for income?
Currently my plan is to get far enough into my career that I can spend half my time in city making money and half in the woods
Exactly, cottage rentals for income. To supplement farming and other ventures, anyway.
I’m lucky that my work is 99.9% remote, so as long as I can acquire a stable internet connect I can continue to work out there if needed. Existing entirely in the woods is incredibly appealing.
I like that idea. Continuing to make money, no matter if it’s just a few hundred dollars a month, is the main hurdle for me to leave. You’d still need to finance construction but it’s a good long term vision.
I am worried about fire seasons/smoke seasons. At best it shortens the tourist season and at worst I lose everything : /
Yeah, that lack of startup capital is why I’m not doing it already. A bunch of us are saving to pool money together to self-finance. You can also just start with a couple of nice trailers (which you wouldn’t be able to charge as much for, of course) and gradually work towards full cottages. Some cottages in areas I frequent around here are just trailers and are still going for like $300 CAD a night in the middle of September.
At least insurance should protect you against total loss?
I’ve thought for a while that it would be cool to buy up a block in a suburb and do urban farming as a community.
see if there are any community gardens in your area. they’re basically what you’re talking about, although usually only the land owner and/or farm manager lives there. my favorite one around here also has a rotating volunteer position who lives on site.
It’s a beautiful dream! Almost a decade ago my family and I left the city and bought land with some other folks. Now it’s just us out here in the wilderness, others are welcome but most people can’t leave the city.
Wish I could do that!
That sounds fantastic, yeah my partner and son are super city dependent they can never leave.
We got out of the city before door dash, grocery delivery, etc. so we don’t even know what we’re missing when we trek over a hundred miles to the Costco. I’d imagine that makes it easier!
It can’t be too “wild” out there, if you are able to pop into Beehaw…? 😂
I would love someplace totally off the grid.
Starlink is everywhere! There is no cell service here so we had much more limited communication prior.
Yeah I have thought about it, here’s a decent list. Mind you there are many more.
https://www.treehugger.com/off-the-grid-communities-places-carving-a-sustainable-path-4863640
That’s a good idea. It would be interesting to create an ideal communist utopia on a small scale so we can see how/if it actually works. Do it!
The Spanish tried this in the 30’s. It was a part of the Spanish civil war and is an interesting read. I’d also recommend On Anarchism by Noam Chomsky which goes more in depth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936Edit: Spelling
If I were younger I’d be looking at Mexico. Elevation and arable land can be found. Aboriginals would have survived if not for guns. And I think it will be a long time before the US ruins them like they do all over the world. I believe you can pretty much survive with 1acre per person in the commune. At least according to Fukuoka Masanobu.
If you’ve ever heard of WOOFing that’s a great place to start. It’s a work trade program I did years ago, tons of farms around the world. You get room and board, just work the farm for a short term. I traveled across Canada doing that years ago and ended up staying on one for 2 years in the discovery islands off the coast of BC. One of the best times in my life. Now I live in downtown Toronto, wondering why I ever came back ahaha
Not really, no. The idea of living in a small community makes me feel nauseous and panicky, and the more remote the commune the more intense the aversion.
But I wouldn’t mind some sort of arrangement between some others who also like the idea of being off-grid but who loathe the idea of being in a small community, where we’d be off in the wilds with a LOT of space between us, but still come together occasionally to help each other out with various things, or be available be radio or whatever.
Similarly, the idea of being part of a nomadic group seems quite appealing to me, especially if more people join along the way and others dip in and out.
When do we get some fresh kicks and an icy drink?
I talk about this a lot - mostly tongue in cheek (mostly) - and my partner always calls me the Unabomber afterwards, or asks when I’m publishing my manifesto.
I’m not a people person and society seems to be getting worse, plus I love rugged living and being outdoors. I can dig it.
I just want more affordable housing
The fact the term “affordable housing” exists is the problem, all housing should be affordable, it’s a necessity, not a damn profitmobile.
If you can find one that isn’t a weird sex cult, let me know.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not limit our options prematurely.
you gotta suck a few eggs to make an omelette
What if it was just a vanilla sex cult?
I’d join.
On the other hand, if you find a werid sex cult, let me know.
If you don’t mind people who never bathe, try these tribes in Namibia:
https://guardian.ng/life/the-namibian-tribe-where-sex-is-offered-to-guests/
god I was hoping it was like tourists show up and just get laid by natives but instead it’s just weird cuckolding.
tourists show up and just get laid
That would be Ibiza… but it only works during summer.
Ibiza
ohh yes! They got the kinda nightclubs you usually only see in movies.
That article kind of presents an idyllic/outdated view of the Himba people. Modern life affects them as well and a lot of young people don’t want to live like that.
Interesting, and indeed a dilemma. I basically mentioned it because just yesterday I saw a guy talking about “sex in the past”, and he happened to mention this, apparently in an even more idealized/outdated way.
Basically he said that a bunch of them would go through a “bonding ritual” at the age of 14, and from then on live like a sort of communal marriage, where the woman would shoo out the husband because she had a date with some other guy of the group, and that they were the “happiest people in the world” and would act surprised at outsiders’ focus on their sexual practices.
From the other article, it sounded more like forced marriage and women abuse… and here it sounds like most of them want to get out of there.
Interesting series of takes.
I’d settle for just a normal sex cult.
NEVER SETTLE
I would but in a commune they would probably just force me to mine or farm all day instead of doing a job I actually want
Very often I would like to abandon my life in reality and become a part of an ideal world which I have imagined. It is surprisingly easy to become part of a rural cult (look up “intentional communities”) so it’s a backup plan I have in mind if necessary, but with people we’re going to be dealing with a different version of the same set of issues. We as a species are nuts.
Lol yeah I love intentional communities, I so want to join one if I could!
I used to live in a housing co-op and loved it. That being said you are going to have to deal with people intimately in that kind of living situation, so quality of life is greatly influenced by how well you mesh with the others around and things can change.
Don’t drink the Kool-Aide
Avoid the apple sauce too.
