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    Tankies are politically incomprehensible, because they claim to be queer-friendly communists, but support insanely queer-phobic bourgeois dictators like Xi and Putin.

    They are vulnerable to the same online radicalization as alt-right bubbles. They say things that get increasingly insane, because it gets them more and more internet points and attention, until they start believing their own outrageous hyperbole.

    For example, I have one tankie currently trying to unironically argue with me that the UK is a vassal state to the US Empire. Like we’re living in Star wars and he’s the rebel alliance that is bringing down with evil empire with lemmy shitposting.

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      At this point we need to assume they’re Russian shills and the queer-friendly stuff is a ruse to have a fallback to always claim the moral high-ground

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        I 100% believe there’s Russian shills in the mix, but I think most of them are normal people who are frustrated with the status quo, and vulnerable to aome targeted manipulation. It’s also exactly how Russia targeted the alt-right.

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      For example, I have one tankie currently trying to unironically argue with me that the UK is a vassal state to the US Empire.

      Why are you posting your Ls lmao

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        I mean, he’s making the US sound 100x more badass than it actually is. Who’s taking the L there?

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            Bad at losing because you’re a global hegemony that pulls all geopolitical strings.

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                It’s funny to trace rhetoric back a few years before the Russia-Ukraine war, when there was so much Internet and social media hype over Russia as a superpower, their military overtaking America:

                https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Russia military US before%3A2020

                Then suddenly there’s the invasion, and suddenly it’s revealed that the hype was all fake, Russia was bluffing on its military, they are mostly poorly trained, with ridiculously outdated equipment.

                And suddenly tons of internet media commentators do a massive 180, and there’s so much rhetoric about how being a global superpower is bad.

                Is being a global superpower bad, or do people say it’s bad just because Russia isn’t one after all?

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                  It’s bad. It would be bad also if Russia were the sole global hegemon and the imperial power that controls the whole world, but it isn’t and also never has been. What a bizarre thought process you have that you think Americans who live in America and have to put up with its bullshit all day are getting their talking points from a country they don’t live in and have nothing to fucking do with. What a deranged conspiracy theory.

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                    What a bizarre thought process you have that you think Americans who live in America and have to put up with its bullshit all day are getting their talking points from a country they don’t live in and have nothing to fucking do with. What a deranged conspiracy theory.

                    I’m gonna blow your mind, Grandpa. Americans consume more internet media than social media.

                    Your see there’s this thing call Facebook

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                  But damn that’s a cool feature. Can you run a search on Ukraine + Nazis prior to the invasion to say what western reporting was saying about it back then?

                  Then suddenly there’s the invasion, and suddenly it’s revealed that the hype was all fake, Russia was bluffing on its military, they are mostly poorly trained, with ridiculously outdated equipment.

                  Do you live in an alternate reality where NATO is winning this war? Lmfao