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    Also Vivaldi don’t follow the Mv3 and has a inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with the filterlist from uBO and others by default, editable. But Mozilla is also planning to launch somthing similar to Mv3 in the near future. All companies which gain money with advertising companies (Mozilla>Alphabet.inc) hate adblockers.

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        Specifically, FF will maintain support for blocking WebRequest in MV3. And that means ad blockers can still be injected before content is rendered.

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      Yo, source please. Does Mozilla even make money off ads?

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            If you use uBO, but even so, if you have activated the sync function, you sync your data with Mozilla and with this, with Google. Brave don’t have sync, since Google cut Google Sync of for Chromium browsers other than Chrome, Vivaldi has a own sync server since years, encrypted end2end. If you lost your Sync password in Firefox, you can restore it, because Mozilla store your sync password and data, in Vivaldi, if you lose yor password, you lose your data, because not even Vivaldi has other data as your encrypted one. Ther isn’t any recover by mail o othr¡er. The price of privacy. Anyway you see thatusing Firefox or a Chromium no necessary means that one don’t tells Google your activity and the other do it., because it use the same renderer as Chrome.

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              This is interesting, but it seems pretty irrelevant because I’m reasonably sure those aren’t ads.

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                Ads are not the problem, the problem is the surveillance advertizing as buisiness model, that means that the company log the userdata and activity to sell it to advertising companies. That is how Mozilla make money, Brave make money with selective adblocking with associate cryptocompanies (I don’t know if this is better), Vivaldi make money with default bookmarks and search engines from sponsors, which pay when the user use these, but the user is free to delete these, if not. Apart by donations and a merch store., they don’t use any ads or trackers.

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                  Again, I don’t know where you get the information from that Mozilla makes money off of surveillance. For many years now, they’ve had the problem that they’re overly reliant on Google, but from the search engine deal, not advertisements. See, for example, this article: https://www.zdnet.com/article/googles-back-its-firefoxs-default-search-engine-again-after-mozilla-ends-yahoo-deal/

                  They have tried to gain a foothold in advertising to reduce that dependence on Google, but that was always privacy-friendly advertising.

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                    I do not trust so much what they say or what they put in the posts, if the Mozilla.com analytics shows me Google trackers and fingerprinting to put personalized ads, which implies the monitoring of user activity, yes or yes.

                    See the screenshot or test it by yourself

                    I use FF as second browser for some tasks, without account or sync, but I prefer to use a browser without any of this Google crap, which in FF isn’t given, even if it is minimal compared to other browsers.

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              Firefox Sync is end-to-end-encrypted, too. See, for example:

              They are generally able to recover sync data, because it’s supposed to be synced to one or more Firefox installations (it’s specifically not a backup service). When you request a password reset, they essentially just wipe what they have on their servers and then re-upload the data from your Firefox installations, encrypted with your new password.