We’ve got a bunch of new people now so let’s bring back a classic post. What low stakes conspiracy theory do you believe that you cannot prove but feels right to you?

I’ll start: I believe that dating apps have made a concerted effort to smear in person meeting people and tie it to being “creepy” through social media so you are forced to meet people online(which was the creepy option just 15 years ago)

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    Public programs are purposely underfunded to make it easy for people to point to why they don’t work (the average person doesn’t think about/care whether they get funding), making it easier to continue the process of privatizing everything.

    Many conspiracy theories aren’t actually conspiracy theories but a consequence of profit-driven motives that give the illusion of a conspiracy theory.

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      As someone who works with houseless folks this is absolutely without a doubt a thing. There are for profit companies springing up that do similar social services that I do, too, so the privatization part even applies. It’s fucked

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah, afaik this is pretty widely acknowledged. Both the GOP and the Dems do it. The notable example I can think of is all the public housing projects the US grudgingly built in response to Soviet housing programs, then deliberately starved of resources to convince people they don’t work.

      Starving education of resources so it can be privatized has been ongoing program for decades. Everyone’s in on it - Tech Billionaires wanted to control education so they could proletarianize coding and they largely won. Christian Fascists wanted Charter Schools so they could re-impose segregation. Democrats wanted to privatize everything so they could loot public education funds and divert the money to magnet and charter schools, while also stripping resources going to minorities. The whole purpose of property-tax funded education was to ensure that class was rigidly enforced.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Nobody cares” tier stakes, but I think Nintendo made games in the dying days of the Wii U that didn’t use the gamepad at all so they could later easily directly port them over to other consoles and thus sell them to people twice.

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    Major sports leagues are not rigged in the sense that winners are pre-determined, but the refs are told to keep games, serieses, and playoff races close, because blowouts and dominance are boring.

    An NBA ref got busted for betting on games and IIRC talked about how the league would make the above obvious to refs (at least in the postseason). There’s too much money changing hands and too little accountability for shady shit to not happen at all, and this is the type of thing all owners could have a handshake agreement on because they’ll all profit from it and it doesn’t really prejudice any team specifically.

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      I 100% believe this is true and it’s what I thought of when I saw this thread. I’m a fan of a small-market team and it’s obvious that the teams with large markets are given preferential treatment. If you’re an owner, would you rather have 3 million people watching the finals or 30 million people? Their financial interest demands that bigger teams be more successful

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netBanned
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        Revenue sharing makes that part a lot more believable, but I still find it hard to buy the idea that one group of billionaires (small market owners) would allow a group of their peers (big market owners) to fuck over their hobby (the team) for the sake of ultimately an incremental amount of money. But maybe I’m thinking too small and too recently.

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    “Smart” consumer products are intentionally spying on you. Full stop.

    That’s why it’s so hard to find a not “smart” anything. The added material cost is well worth the additional surveillance, be it for the sake of ruling class parasites buying and selling the surveillance data, or for their buddies fedposting

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        It’s low stakes because I believe it isn’t just done but it’s done at such a staggeringly wide scale and not many people notice or even care.

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          I’ve gotten into arguments about this with the cryptofash over at programming.dev lmao. literally had one of them tell me to “get over it”.

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            The version I hear the most is “everyone does it” as if that makes it somehow acceptable, and its associated cliche “if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” from so-called “hackers” that get their takes from so called “Hacker News.”

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                Your shirt about missing a time when you could get away with sex pestery/bigotry is getting so many questions asked about the shirt you’re wearing that implies that you used to get away with sex pestery/bigotry. scared-fash

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                I had “nothing to hide” back when cancel culture wasn’t a thing and the “rules” weren’t in constant flux

                From another recent comment of yours, for context.

                (When really Milo was just outed as a pedo, which is how most people get canceled these days)

                HMMM.

                HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

                Sure is a bad thing that “canceling” happens that way to you, huh? libertarian-alert

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      Not a conspiracy theory. It’s basically how modern marketing works since…2012 or so, and why it’s in a death spiral (you can either afford the data sets or not and that’s what determines if your advertising is effective)

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        I call it a conspiracy theory by way of the deliberate absence/omission of non “smart” choices. It’s unspoken but it’s there, and it’s systemic.

        • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Well, if you make and sell a non-“smart” TV or whatever, you’re leaving money on the table. It’s hardly any more expensive to add, and you get the extra recurring revenue stream from selling surveillance data, and maybe subscriptions or service upsells.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t think that’s a conspiracy they’re pretty up-front about that. The bigger not-a-conspiracy is that they can remotely brick all that shit when they decide to stop supporting it, meaning that your expensive smart-house set up might end up being worthless overnight.

      Doctorow’s “Unauthorized Bread” short story lays it out in a humorous short-fiction format.

    • This is a big reason that high quality TVs are getting so much more affordable. The revenue from selling data subsidizes the cost to bring the price way down. “Telly” is one such company taking this to the extreme and offering the device to consumers free of charge.

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    Toby Keith had “Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue” pre-written years before 9/11 and wrote it generically enough so that it could apply to whatever war Amerikkka entered next.

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        Probably it is like slot machine programming. Average is bad, but will give out a minor win timed so that you still believe that it is possible.

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        When I am using dating apps, I completely delete my account and remake it every few weeks.

        From my experience, they give your profile a lot of extra reach in the first 2-3 weeks or so before throttling it.

        It’s been a while since I’ve done this, though, I imagine they’ll eventually start combating that strategy if they’re not doing it already.

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      I wonder if there’s a way to game it so you actually get matched with people you are compatible with, ie. by pretending to be someone else as far as the algorithm is concerned. Or if their algorithms are so good that you can’t even get away with that.

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      There’ve never been any time travellers because the time traveller detection agency always spots them winning the stock market and neutralizes them, .

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      The odds would have to be much longer for it to be effective. Sure when it’s one in one hundred million there’s almost no chance that *you" will win, but with millions of players playing every day there’s practically a guarantee that someone will win eventually.

      The SEC are the real time cops. They’re a front for the Hyperextended Interval Temporal Legislation and Entropic Reduction Society (don’t panic about the acronym, they started as private bodyguards and then their mission expanded as chronological abuse became more widely known). It’s a lot easier to vet people buying Amazon and Apple stock at IPO. If you’ve got no history until 1980, then buy 10,000 shares of apple on IPO day, then do absolutely nothing else in the market for decades, then dump all 10k shares at peak that’s a pretty easy to spot profile of a time traveler.

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          They’re different specialties, and since the late 2400s we’ve had access tothere are ways of detecting much more complex Jump, Pump and Dump (JPD) schemes

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      Or quantum suicidal people that try to deceive and hack the machinery of the universe.

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    Incredibly low stakes but still technically a conspiracy theory.

    There’s a town in Wales called Beddgelert. They have a story about how the town is named after a loyal hound who was mistakenly killed in revenge by Llewellyn the Great who believed Gelert killed his infant son. They have a statue and all the typical tourist trap shit.

    Cute story except for one thing.

    It’s all a lie. The story of Gelert was made up in the 18th century by the owner of a local hotel, David Pritchard, who was looking to drum up tourism. There’s no record of the story before then, the burial mound was erected some time shortly before he started circulating the myth, Gelert wasn’t a name before then. The town was actually named after Celert, an 8th century missionary who settled there, and 13th century censuses that list the town as Bedkelert seem to support this assumption.

    Eryri tourist board has taken you for fools!