The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3320637

YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

  • applejacks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1466·
    1 year ago

    hm yes, let’s look at who commits the most gun violence in the US, surely it is conservatives!

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
        843·
        1 year ago

        Go take a political litmus test of every gang member in the US and see how many are conservatives.

        Active shooters make a drop in the pale comparatively, they’re just the ones the media focuses on because it’s the narrative they prefer.

        • Annies_Boobs@lemmy.worldEnglish
          184·
          1 year ago

          You really don’t see why the media would focus on a random mass killing instead of 2 scumbags shooting at each other over drugs? Weird.

          • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
            411·
            1 year ago

            2? More like thousands. If guns are the problem, then guns are the problem. We don’t need to focus on specific gun crime when those crimes are once again a drop in the bucket.

            That’s why it’s weird.

            • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
              31·
              1 year ago

              Guns are indeed the problem. As every other developed nation shows.

              Why people still claim the US is developed beats me, they belong in the same line as Brazil and Mexico (no offence Brazilians and Mexicans)

        • Pratai@lemmy.caEnglish
          73·
          1 year ago

          Learn the difference between the concept of one who enables the crime, and one who commits the crime.

          If you’re having a hard time understanding how our law handles such a thing:

          Read up on a guy named Charles Manson. Then delete your dumb shit.

        • LillyPip@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          No u.

          Here, I’ll give you a head start:

          University of Maryland Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice

          our analysis shows that right-wing actors are significantly more violent than left-wing actors
          the probability of a violent act of extremism in the United States being committed by a left-wing extremist was found to be 0.33, 0.61 by a right-wing extremist, and 0.62 by an Islamist extremist.

          You’ll notice that’s double the incidents from the right vs the left.

          Military Times, which no one could reasonably claim has any liberal bias

          But terrorism carried out by right-wing actors eclipsed that of leftist movements in the 1990s … Now, government agencies and scholars across the political spectrum agree that far-right movements have caused most of the political violence in the U.S. over the past few years – and present the most dangerous threat today.

          West Point Combating Terrorism Center – and again, West Point can hardly be called liberal

          Accelerationist ideology, conspiracy theories, disinformation, and far-right extremist narratives have played a key role in the prioritization of critical infrastructure as a target for the violent far-right. The intersections of these ideologies and narratives have led to complex attacks on power grids and the targeting of telecommunications systems by far-right extremists. The increased focus and attacks on critical infrastructure by far-right extremists has the potential to wreak extensive, multifaceted societal disruption and damage, impacting communications, the economy, mobility, and basic human necessities.

          Can you provide legitimate, unbiased sources for your claims? Because all the data says you’re being lied to.

          • LazyM11@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            1 year ago

            I live in LA def ain’t conservatives out here shooting it up. I can just go see if in real life stay to your online life

            • LillyPip@lemmy.caEnglish
              21·
              1 year ago

              Mhm. Your anecdotal ‘feels’ outweigh actual data, sounds about right(wing).

              How about you at least try to back up what you say with anything at all beyond ‘I believe it’s true’? Because nobody outside your bubble is going to take that seriously.

              I’m from a city roughly the size and makeup of LA, so you can keep your ‘online life’ comment to yourself.

              e-side note: real people are behind these usernames, you know. Not NPCs or drones, but actual people with lives sharing similarities to your own in varying degrees. People aren’t black and white caricatures, and treating them as though they’re hypothetical characters in fake worlds further detaches you from them and can lead to a distorted worldview.

              It’s important keep remembering that, because bad actors have been working hard to take advantage of the tendency we all have towards this.

    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      276·
      1 year ago

      “The conservative party enables gun violence” and “conservatives commit the most gun violence” are completely separate and independent statements. The person you’re replying to is saying the former, not the latter.

      In other words, they aren’t saying that Republicans commit the majority of gun violence, but that the policies championed and implemented by Republicans are responsible for gun violence occurring.

      And whether or not Republicans like it, they admit this all the time, although not the way you’d think. The GOP likes to say that mental health is the driver of gun violence and mass shootings, but simultaneously, the GOP votes against improved mental healthcare and even slashes funding for it.

      • applejacks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        314·
        1 year ago

        Ah yes, the conservative party makes all those gangbangers get illegal guns and shoot each other up.

        brilliant comment.

    • Pratai@lemmy.caEnglish
      95·
      1 year ago

      Quit being obtuse. You know as well as I do that conservatives ENABLE the gun violence we see every day. It’s baked right into the bullshit policy they enact, the laws they block, and the gun manufacturers that pay them their salaries.