Just read his Address at Madison Square Garden, New York City, October 31, 1936. The whole thing still feels very relevant and is a worthwhile (and not too long) read. The quote that stuck with me today was:
We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.
We could use another FDR I think
If we got another FDR, I think I would have a heart attack from joy. Someone who will fucking fight for us. Jesus the bar is so low at this point.
FDR was a member of the ruling class (aristocracy really) and did those things because of a very real fear of socialist revolution given the relatively recent Russian revolution and the ongoing Great Depression.
If we want capitalists to give some ground to working class standard of living, it will be because they are afraid of losing the whole game
I used to want them to give some ground. Now I want us to take it. It’s become absolutely clear that they don’t just beat us down for advantage, they hate us and want us dead or suffering.
We have the power, but they have us using it to fight each-others. It’s time for the people to unify and use our power to tell the wealthy what the new rules are going to be.
Honestly, something akin to the French revolution wherein we instil a cultural, physical FEAR of too much wealth that would stay for several generations, at least, would be beneficial for humanity on the whole.
So if we can get them to fear us and run on “hey we don’t wanna die. What do you want?” that would be welcome.
It wouldn’t matter as long as Congress, the courts, and the states remain as undemocratically corrupt as they are now. The US is cooked and isn’t going to get better. The best case scenario is that it falls apart and the states form new, sovereign entities. The fascists won’t just disappear, and they wont learn any lessons from the current administration or from reaping what they sow.
Short of massive, unprecedented, and devastating civil action, there is no hope.
Short of massive, unprecedented, and devastating civil action, there is no hope.
Then call for massive, unprecedented, and devastating civil action rather than portending doom. Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
This is the first time I’ve seen or heard the phrase “pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.” I quite like that, thank you for exposing me to it.
Thanks for inspiring us all to do nothing.
You are right, but the problem is less about corruption in politics and more about the weakness of voters. As bad as shit is, it’s pretty much exactly what we voted for.
We could use another FDR I think
It would have to be someone who might be wealthy enough not to care about where to get more campaign funding, but moral enough not to be greedy and silver-spooned.
It wasnt morality that made an oligarch promote social democracy. People forget FDR’s last name was Roosevelt.
He’d watched his predecessor send in the tanks to raze a camp of protesters infront of the capitol, and in the previous 20 years saw the Russian Revolution, a failed revolution in Germany, and being old-money, had a broader perspective on keeping his class on top than the short-sighted new money.
FDR wasnt embracing socialism, he was buying guillotine insurance to save capitalism.
A lot of people are dismissive of Roosevelt simply because he’s old money. Socialists dream that he should have gone further left. If he didn’t genuinely cared, business leaders would not have tried to coup him. I read somewhere that someone overheard a rich woman call FDR a class traitor. The Bretton Woods Agreement which he had drawn up did not invite any businesses for opinions. And it’s not groundbreaking to say that FDR wasn’t fully bringing America into socialism. All that shows FDR has only gone as far left as anyone could accept at the time.
His family were also drug lords.
This wikipedia link is about his maternal grandfather.
FDR did great things in office. He was also acting in self-interest.
In another universe, Henry Wallace wasn’t replaced by Truman as VP and thus Wallace became president upon FDRs death. That would have made a massive difference in our history.
Anyhow, for the edification of all…
My hope is for pritzker.
He’s be the perfect class traitor, but sadly, I don’t think he has enough dog in him to be what we need
Luigi.
I don’t know how I feel about how relevant 95% of that speech was.
he won four times. FOUR! they made a rule that you cant win more than twice because he never would have lost!
Some say he would still be president to this day without that rule.
Roosevelt’s bones for prez 2027!
I mean you could do worse, clearly.
You do realize he died during his fourth term right
he still could win a fifth term!
But hear me out, let’s just give the current racist fascists a chance first.
Blue no matter who, fr
Voting for the blue racist fascist is how we got here!
Turns out people who want racist fascists are going to vote republican anyway.
Trump’s votes barely increased but over 8 Million more people voted for Biden than Harris. We haven’t had more than 50 DNC in the senate for over 12 years.
Voting for the blue is demonstrably fucking not how we got here. Not voting blue is how we got here.
Voting blue when they give us dogshit policies that help nobody and politicians who do nothing to stop Republicans, when they arent just doing republican’s jobs for them is why the dems keep losing against the “make everything worse” party.
Look at the competition. Against that, america should be a 1 party state, instead we have dems going to war, funding ICE (clinton did not do this, because ICE did not exist), and kicking the shit out of the politically activated youth they need to get people to vote showing generation after generation that they are a dead end for positive social change.
Dogshit policies like Medicaid for all, removing money from politics (again), and taxing the rich.
Policies they don’t actually support. If they did, they wouldnt let Manchin or Liberman or the parliamentarian or “norms” stop them. We’ve seen the dems can smash through barriers the same way Republicans can, they did it to illegally send weapons to Israel. We’ve seen they can whip votes and discipline their own party, they do it to any progressive who doesnt fall in line.
They’ve literally done these things whenever and to however much extent possible. You seem to think having permanently 50 or less senators overcomes the supermajority. It’s like you’re not even capable of parsing that information.
Harris/Biden ran on opposing all of these. The Dems can’t simultaneously fight against Bernie and progressives and then pretend at some point they were fore them because Bernie was in a Dem primary at one point and forced Dem candidates to find deceptive ways to deflect and lie like Harris saying “access to healthcare for all”
They were literally positions listed on her campaign website.
I would link to it directly but its already unavailable so heres an Article about it. take specific notice of capital gains tax.
I’ll paraphrase what someone on Lemmy said the other day:
Politics is like everyone on a bus voting for where we’re going to go for lunch.
If 5 people vote “Let’s drive off the cliff,” 4 people vote “Let’s go to McDonald’s,” and 3 people don’t vote because they hate McDonald’s, we all drive off the cliff and many of us die. You don’t get to not be on the bus.
If the last 3 times the McDonalds faction’s driver was in control, they drove right be mcdonalds after McDonalds without stopping, towards that cliff, you would conclude thd McDonalds faction needs to be purged of suicidal drivers if they want to represent not driving off the cliff to anybody.
But you don’t understand, in 1992 the Democrats won the Presidency with like 40% of the vote on a message of “Republican but with less bigotry,” which proves that Americans love their basic economic message of “fuck you get your own food, shelter, and medical care!”
If democrats are successful and get consistently elected, then that means they have to actually do something and run on a platform beyond “I’m not Republican” to not get primaried.
Establishment Dems hate success and progress. Progressives are doing good.
Only corrupt people who are willing to “play ball” for the rich get into office. Trump is part of the service economy for the rich (the Dempublican kingmakers).
They won’t interrupt their bosses when they’re having a good time.
honestly i had no idea that FDR was a Muslim.
Dude get this, a rightwing youtuber I follow that uncritically spouts rightwing vomit that I dutifully swallow and regurgitate for other incel babies told me the indigenous people of the US are secretly muslim!
This got me scared enough that I decided to just unquestionably believe it and now I am hiding in my lifted pickup watching Dirty Jobs on repeat to try to calm down, what should I do Grok?
You already know what you must do, Alpha king. You must cuck and simp for your rulers
Hey now, I liked Dirty jobs when I was a kid. Is Mike Rowe a bad guy?
The TV star who jerks off business owners every chance he gets and says worker safety should be third priority is a bad guy.
If the timing for a show about infrastructure feels political, it is. Democrats are trying to pass a trillion-dollar public works package, the debates around which have often devolved into arguments about the definition of the term infrastructure. It’s clear which camp How America Works falls into. Rowe recently told Maria Bartiromo that the show’s goal was to remind Americans of “what infrastructure really is.” Six episodes in, that includes lumber, oil, waste, electricity, fish, and, somewhat oddly, entertainment. While no one would argue with the inclusion of landfills and the Hoover Dam as critical infrastructure, many of the episodes, like one on the Circus Circus Hotel and Casino (owned by Trump Hotels business partner Phil Ruffin), read as pro-business propaganda. Add in the episode’s repeated references to “mandates,” but never the coronavirus itself, and you get messaging that’s perfectly in step with the network that airs it.
https://newrepublic.com/article/164230/mike-rowe-dirty-jobs-how-america-works
I mean, yes… has he been accused of crimes? Not as far as I know but yes absolutely Mike Rowe is a bad person.
Zikes.
grok: sounds like you got woke in your blood, you should do meth about it
A communist Muslim. You know, that famous combination.
No kidding: they spinned that one in France: “islamo-gauchiste” (something like “islam-leftist”). For real!
That would make a lot of sense from what I’m being told
“Oh, so you’re here to take my picture. Should I smile or someth–“
Remember how FDR got reelected so many times they amended the constitution after he died to keep presidents to two terms?
!remindmebot@lemmy.world 4 years “Trump 3rd term.”
Democratic leaders are largely useless, if not outright cowards, cheats, and/or frauds*
There, FTFY.
You forgot spineless, which I would say is distinct from cowards. But yes, It’s much more accurate now.
If FDR were alive today, Richie Torries would make it his life’s goal to tip him out of his wheelchair.
It really hurts the money politicians make in political contributions and perks.
My sick elderly family will be stricken to hear this
Am Democrat
Am not terrified
All criticisms of said Democrat I have seen are of his opinion on Israel, which also differ from the example here.
Damnit, I’ve been saying constructed opposition. I had the phrase wrong!
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Mamdani pulled off a surprise victory less than 30 days ago and he’s already gaining support.
Political parties don’t cater to people who don’t vote
And in the USA you vote with your
walletoffshore bank account. You don’t have the right to complain until you’ve voted with at least 6 figures.Or people who do, if they dont give money.
The Democrats actively contribute to non-voting by being the only space for opposition, but then always campaigning on being “polite Republicans that fill out paperwork”
