I agree with learning or joining an apprenticeship but totally disagree with the sentiment “be an adult, take 5 mins to diagnose and 20 mins labour.” Even the tenner for parts is presumptuous.
Just to be clear as well, Im not one of those stupid cucks you mentioned, I just know DIY repairs might not be as straight forward as you make it out. Of course internet access would make it easier, some people don’t have the capacity to learn things that way. Aside from that some repairs require wildly expensive equipment to complete it.
You basically just generalised putting up a shelf or something for making any repair you want at home instead of asking for help which is kinda crazy because the average person is a lot more dangerous than we give them credit for.
All it takes is for someone to decide that an electrical problem doesn’t need a professional, do it wrong, and burn their house down, and their neighbours or maybe a block of flats.
I’ve got plenty of experience in trades and can do all jobs myself. It’s very presumptuous of you, to think I was talking about myself but so far you’ve made presumptions about people in general.
Maybe you need the due diligence to realise just because you can, even with a bullshit cocky attitude, not everyone can. Some people have disabilities or learning difficulties (or both) that prevent them from “being an adult” as you so nicely put it. So instead of recognising people with these difficulties you just decide to belittle them as useless children that need us to carry them.
Here’s an idea, look it up, maybe you’ll learn something. What’s more likely is that you’ll fight doing the research because of excuses.
I love the fact that you think you know anything about my technical abilities or self image. The ignorance is palpable.
I never noticed you offer any help either, in fact, I’d say your initial comment lacked decency by belittling people who aren’t independent. I just brought it up that people who need assistance are still adults as much as you and infantilising them isn’t the decent thing to do but your ego didn’t like that.
I’ll take the bait! I definitely wouldn’t say renting is BETTER, but your comment definitely exposes some privileged views. Not everyone has the skills, competency, time, or cash on hand to manage their own repairs. There’s also other advantages to renting. Most obviously is the fact that it’s a lot easier to move - signing a new lease is so much less of a hassle than dealing with all of the things involved with selling and buying a home. This was somewhat mitigated by having equity, but right now it can take 5-10 years to have positive equity in a home.
Don’t get me wrong, the article is absolutely dystopian, dude’s paying 1400 a month for a shoebox. There is a lot that’s ridiculous about his situation, but to throw out all of the actual advantages renting can have is as disingenuous of a take as if I were to say buying is a gamble. Call it copium, or say I’m a cuck, whatever but it’s definitely not a clear-cut victory on either side
Same. The restrictions on mobility freedom aren’t worth it for me, especially when things like local amenities and crime are so variable.
As an example, been living here for half a decade - buses have gone from every 8min to every 20-30min (and every hour on weekends) and crime has gone through the roof - law enforcement regularly drops by for my external security footage for everything from theft, assault, and homicide. Bus stop that was just a 30 second walk from my door was moved 3 mins away. There are many, many more reasons too, but those are the only ones really worth mentioning.
If I “owned” the house I’d be stuck, who would want to buy it for possibly less than the bank loan for me to move on? Not to mention the complicated process of getting that sorted
Also the idea of working at the same company for 30 years is ludicrous these days. Hell even staying in the same city is tough. Why in the world would I buy a house with a 30 year mortgage and nice short commute to work when its extremely likely that two years from now I’ll be at another company an hour and a half on the other side of town?
The price someone would pay a repairperson to fix things is already factored into rent. If a homeowner didn’t have the time/energy to fix the thing, the homeowner could just hire their own repairperson and be in the same situation, except not me renting.
be an adult take 5 mins to diagnose the problem and order the $10 part and do the 20min labor yourself for a change
Yeah I tried to do that. I figured out the gaskets on the toilet had worn out and were leaking. Turned into about $200 in parts and consumables as I had to dremel off the bolts due to bad corrosion and replaced other parts that were in bad shape while I was at it. I’d done my research, quadruple checked the manuals and resources. Guess what happened? I had some leaks on the new gaskets and a new leak on the water intake hose.
I also took the trap out of the sink to clear a clog because it was full of gunk. I put it back in wrong and didn’t realize it until months later so now the problem has grown significantly and the floor is damaged
I’m just paying a plumber to fix it because every time I’ve tried to fix plumbing I’ve made it significantly worse and at greater cost than just calling a plumber, no matter how much I try to make sure I’ve got the right tools, supplies and process.
Not everyone is handy, so not everyone can fix it themselves. This is why humans specialized, not so much because not everyone could do it, but because some people are so much better at certain things that its better to let people do more of what they’re good at and let them get better at that then to have everyone be moderately okay at everything.
I am 100% with you on plumbing. Doesn’t matter how well prepared I am or how simple the job. It always goes sideways on me.
I can build a datacenter from the ground up as long as there’s no plumbing involved.
I feel like plumbing and electrical work are things you should just pay professionals to do. The risk of things going very sideways is just too high for me.
And no one’s keeping you from growing your own crop, baking your own bread, making your own clothes, programming your own software, building your own website, etc.
But nobody’s got time to learn and do everything by themselves. The greatest benefit of living in a society is division of labor so that everyone can specialize in any field. Without that, progress would not be possible and we’d still be cavepeople each doing their own shit.
Please don’t judge people on what stuff they want to do themselves and what they want to pay others to do.
renting is preferable for a lot of folks, exclusively having the option to rent being bad doesnt automatically make purchasing a house better in every scenario
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I agree with learning or joining an apprenticeship but totally disagree with the sentiment “be an adult, take 5 mins to diagnose and 20 mins labour.” Even the tenner for parts is presumptuous.
Just to be clear as well, Im not one of those stupid cucks you mentioned, I just know DIY repairs might not be as straight forward as you make it out. Of course internet access would make it easier, some people don’t have the capacity to learn things that way. Aside from that some repairs require wildly expensive equipment to complete it.
You basically just generalised putting up a shelf or something for making any repair you want at home instead of asking for help which is kinda crazy because the average person is a lot more dangerous than we give them credit for.
All it takes is for someone to decide that an electrical problem doesn’t need a professional, do it wrong, and burn their house down, and their neighbours or maybe a block of flats.
Very true about repairs. There is so much truth in this video
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I’ve got plenty of experience in trades and can do all jobs myself. It’s very presumptuous of you, to think I was talking about myself but so far you’ve made presumptions about people in general.
Maybe you need the due diligence to realise just because you can, even with a bullshit cocky attitude, not everyone can. Some people have disabilities or learning difficulties (or both) that prevent them from “being an adult” as you so nicely put it. So instead of recognising people with these difficulties you just decide to belittle them as useless children that need us to carry them.
Here’s an idea, look it up, maybe you’ll learn something. What’s more likely is that you’ll fight doing the research because of excuses.
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That’s a shame.
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I love the fact that you think you know anything about my technical abilities or self image. The ignorance is palpable.
I never noticed you offer any help either, in fact, I’d say your initial comment lacked decency by belittling people who aren’t independent. I just brought it up that people who need assistance are still adults as much as you and infantilising them isn’t the decent thing to do but your ego didn’t like that.
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I’ll take the bait! I definitely wouldn’t say renting is BETTER, but your comment definitely exposes some privileged views. Not everyone has the skills, competency, time, or cash on hand to manage their own repairs. There’s also other advantages to renting. Most obviously is the fact that it’s a lot easier to move - signing a new lease is so much less of a hassle than dealing with all of the things involved with selling and buying a home. This was somewhat mitigated by having equity, but right now it can take 5-10 years to have positive equity in a home.
Don’t get me wrong, the article is absolutely dystopian, dude’s paying 1400 a month for a shoebox. There is a lot that’s ridiculous about his situation, but to throw out all of the actual advantages renting can have is as disingenuous of a take as if I were to say buying is a gamble. Call it copium, or say I’m a cuck, whatever but it’s definitely not a clear-cut victory on either side
Edit: motivated -> mitigated. Thanks autocorrect.
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The bank says I’m too poor for a mortgage so I pay more than a mortgage to rent a studio.
I have no desire to own real estate even though I can totally afford it, AMA
Same. The restrictions on mobility freedom aren’t worth it for me, especially when things like local amenities and crime are so variable.
As an example, been living here for half a decade - buses have gone from every 8min to every 20-30min (and every hour on weekends) and crime has gone through the roof - law enforcement regularly drops by for my external security footage for everything from theft, assault, and homicide. Bus stop that was just a 30 second walk from my door was moved 3 mins away. There are many, many more reasons too, but those are the only ones really worth mentioning.
If I “owned” the house I’d be stuck, who would want to buy it for possibly less than the bank loan for me to move on? Not to mention the complicated process of getting that sorted
Also the idea of working at the same company for 30 years is ludicrous these days. Hell even staying in the same city is tough. Why in the world would I buy a house with a 30 year mortgage and nice short commute to work when its extremely likely that two years from now I’ll be at another company an hour and a half on the other side of town?
What a world huh.
The price someone would pay a repairperson to fix things is already factored into rent. If a homeowner didn’t have the time/energy to fix the thing, the homeowner could just hire their own repairperson and be in the same situation, except not me renting.
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Yeah I tried to do that. I figured out the gaskets on the toilet had worn out and were leaking. Turned into about $200 in parts and consumables as I had to dremel off the bolts due to bad corrosion and replaced other parts that were in bad shape while I was at it. I’d done my research, quadruple checked the manuals and resources. Guess what happened? I had some leaks on the new gaskets and a new leak on the water intake hose.
I also took the trap out of the sink to clear a clog because it was full of gunk. I put it back in wrong and didn’t realize it until months later so now the problem has grown significantly and the floor is damaged
I’m just paying a plumber to fix it because every time I’ve tried to fix plumbing I’ve made it significantly worse and at greater cost than just calling a plumber, no matter how much I try to make sure I’ve got the right tools, supplies and process.
Not everyone is handy, so not everyone can fix it themselves. This is why humans specialized, not so much because not everyone could do it, but because some people are so much better at certain things that its better to let people do more of what they’re good at and let them get better at that then to have everyone be moderately okay at everything.
I am 100% with you on plumbing. Doesn’t matter how well prepared I am or how simple the job. It always goes sideways on me. I can build a datacenter from the ground up as long as there’s no plumbing involved.
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I feel like plumbing and electrical work are things you should just pay professionals to do. The risk of things going very sideways is just too high for me.
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And no one’s keeping you from growing your own crop, baking your own bread, making your own clothes, programming your own software, building your own website, etc.
But nobody’s got time to learn and do everything by themselves. The greatest benefit of living in a society is division of labor so that everyone can specialize in any field. Without that, progress would not be possible and we’d still be cavepeople each doing their own shit.
Please don’t judge people on what stuff they want to do themselves and what they want to pay others to do.
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there should be an option for both
renting is preferable for a lot of folks, exclusively having the option to rent being bad doesnt automatically make purchasing a house better in every scenario