Was scrolling through my forums and came across this discussion on simplex chat, for an request for end to end encrypted offline bluetooth messaging. I thought this was a great feature but the **developer will only consider if people vote. So take a vote! **

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      2 years ago

      Like it or not Apple may just say no. They already refuse to give Bluetooth access to background applications in a way that would be useful to p2p messenger. And AppStore inclusion is at their whim, which given their current track record in HK/China I’d be very skeptical about. So unless you are talking about users willing to jailbreak and modify core components of their devices support from application developers doesn’t necessarily accomplish what you want.

      That said, Briar developers said they are willing to give technical support to any independent party developing iOS client, they are just not planning to do it themselves. Which I find very understandable because:

      • They have no iOS app developers on staff
      • Their codebase is not portable to iOS, requiring basically full rewrite anyway
      • This whole affair is a risky investment of time and energy for something that competes with core Apple product (AirDrop)

      If SimpleX decides to implement any form of Bluetooth messaging that’s compatible with iOS it will be by necessity very restricted and there’s very little the developers can do about that.

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      like it or not ios needs to be supported

      I think a messenger app these days should be native to both major mobile OS’s and the three big one’s for computers.

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        That’s wishful thinking when some of the platforms just flat out refuse to support necessary features for maintaining p2p connections.

        Complaining to application developers won’t change a thing about that.

        Complain to Apple instead, preferably in the form of not buying their products unless they actually open their devices to third-party software without artificial limitations in the way.

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          Complaining to application developers won’t change a thing about that.

          Having an opinion isn’t complaining to the devs, what an odd thing to project.

          Complain to Apple instead

          Perhaps I could have, but I interact with briar or similar, and my friends - not apple. Let the people who owns an Apple device complain to apple, what incentives would they have to please me as a non-customer anyways?

          preferably in the form of not buying their products

          I haven’t bought an apple product since the first gen iPod nano. After that the nanos wasn’t jailbreakable and I was out. On top of that I always advocate open source android instead of both ios and google android.

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          I think they’re on GitLab, and I did years ago lol

          edit: and that they need proper data export/import as well, that’s a real bummer