Having lost the first vote to become House speaker, Rep. Jim Jordan will try again on a decisive second ballot that will test whether the hard-edged ally of Donald Trump can win over the holdouts or if his bid for the gavel is collapsing, denied by detractors.

Ahead of Wednesday morning’s voting, Jordan made an unexpected plea for party unity, the combative Judiciary Committee chairman telling his colleagues on social media, “we must stop attacking each other and come together.”

But a surprisingly large and politically diverse group of 20 Republicans rejected Jordan’s nomination, many resisting the hardball tactics enforcing support, and viewing the Ohio congressman as too extreme for the powerful position of House speaker, second in line to the presidency.

  • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    95
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    These chucklefucks always say “we need to come together” after being the ones who always tear shit apart. They play stupid games and damage our democracy. I wish nothing but the worst for them.

    • krellor@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      37
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The schadenfreude is strong watching Jordan, who in 16 years hasn’t had a single bill he sponsored or cosponsored pass, has done nothing but rail against compromise and negotiations, now desperately plead with people to negotiate to make him speaker. Good on the hold outs for having an ounce of guts.

    • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      These chucklefucks always say “we need to come together”

      Their version of “come together” always has been “We get everything we want and get to continue shitting all over you while you get to sit there and thank us for it”. Even within their own ranks.

      The holdouts most likely realize that Jim Jordan’s word is about as valuable as dogshit, and there’d be nothing they can do about it the minute he tells his own allies to go pound sand. This is also why the Democrats should not be supporting any kind of “consensus” speaker, because they would have exactly zero leverage to enforce whatever deal they strike, and there would be nothing stopping any GOP speaker from reneging on the deal and telling the Dems to fuck off.

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      “Only by working together side by side can we support the American people. Don’t you understand that you stupid Democrats? Your idiocy is why we’re banning abortion.”

    • Unaware7013@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Idiocy is a core tenent of the Republican platform and has been for years. Intelligence has been looked down on by the Republican party for the 20 odd years I’ve been paying attention, and it’s only gotten worse as they’ve cozied up to the insane authoritarians and leaned into the bugfuck support of ‘religion’ to get their way/keep themselves in power

    • Uniquitous@lemmy.one
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s the problem with representative democracy. You get enough idiots voting and they’ll elect compatible representation.

    • bquintb
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The idiocy is the point. Because “government doesn’t work.”

      • dhork@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Republicans keep saying government is corrupt, incompetent, and useless, then they get elected to run the government and prove their point.

        • david@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          If government was done well, people might be happy paying their taxes, and that’s the last thing republicans want.

  • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Hes fucked.

    He has the money raising power of a twig stuck in cowshit, the charisma of a run over frog, and absolutely no one (save for absolute morons) believes the whole jacket off, I’m working hard shtick.

    They will end up making the Speaker Pro Tem be able to push legislation and get them working again because the Pro-Israel donors want aid to Israel and decide the speakership later down the road.

    • eran_morad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’ll take this outcome over Gym Jordan, sexual abuse enabler, insurrectionist and traitor to the Republic, Speaker of the House of Representatives, any day.

    • dhork@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      and decide the speakership later down the road.

      “Down the road” could very well be after the 2024 elections, when saner leadership is voted in.

  • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Jordan is toast. He has no path to the speaker’s chair and his opposition will only grow. The GOP plan to float a motion to give Patrick McHenry more authority, and if concessions are given it will get Dem votes.

    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      give Patrick McHenry more authority

      This seems like a horrible precedent being set but nobody seems to have a problem with it.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The GOP plan to float a motion to give Patrick McHenry more authority

      Shredding the Constitution to fix a problem created by the GOP isn’t a good solution

      • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t know how much of the constitution is shredded. If the motion only gives the pro tempore additional powers until the end of the year, say, not much shredded. It’s a way to give them time but stay in business.

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Then they just do the same thing again next year and suddenly we never have a “real” speaker again. Unless we get actual consequences along the lines of a snap election, this seems like a bad idea.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    what rational person wants the job considering whoever gets it will be plunged right back into a debt ceiling bill fight

    • Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      He doesn’t care about that. He wants the speakership so he can exert additional pressure toward making certain problems go away for Trump and himself.

      • grue@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        He wants to be in a position to make the next coup attempt succeed.

      • Telorand@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        The House won’t really be able to affect Trump’s legal woes, since at least one of them is beyond the reach of even the federal courts. What he’d do with the speakership is call impeachment votes for Biden every week, then prattle on about how it’s somehow the Democrats’ and RINO’s faults that the votes never succeed.

        Basically, he would try to act like some kind of Conservative strong-man to win political theatre points.

        • Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          Lacking the authority over state level legal proceedings hasn’t stopped Jordan from trying to exert pressure over Alvin Bragg and Fani Willis. It’s not about what he can do within the bounds of the law. He’s already tried it without the speakership. The speakership just gives him more weight to throw around and makes it just a little harder to impose accountability on him.

          • Telorand@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Oh, sure. It’s practically a given that he’ll try and continue to fail to exert authority over things beyond his jurisdiction. But that’s the “political strong-man” act I was referring to, and even with his weak attempts to affect the state cases, I don’t expect that sort of behavior to stop while he still breathes.

            It doesn’t matter to him if he ultimately succeeds, because the point is to make a show to his base that he still swears fealty to the Orange Oaf.

  • Haus@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    I hear Gym Jordan and The Ginger fucked an Ostriches… Allegedlies…

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    WASHINGTON (AP) — Having lost the first vote to become House speaker, Rep. Jim Jordan will try again on a decisive second ballot that will test whether the hard-edged ally of Donald Trump can win over the holdouts or if his bid for the gavel is collapsing, denied by detractors.

    Ahead of Wednesday morning’s voting, Jordan made an unexpected plea for party unity, the combative Judiciary Committee chairman telling his colleagues on social media, “we must stop attacking each other and come together.”

    But a surprisingly large and politically diverse group of 20 Republicans rejected Jordan’s nomination, many resisting the hardball tactics enforcing support, and viewing the Ohio congressman as too extreme for the powerful position of House speaker, second in line to the presidency.

    Additional voting Tuesday was postponed as the House hit a standstill, stuck while Jordan worked to shore up backing from Republican colleagues for the job to replace the ousted Kevin McCarthy.

    Flexing their independence, the holdouts are a mix of pragmatists — ranging from seasoned legislators and committee chairs worried about governing, to newer lawmakers from districts where voters back home prefer President Joe Biden to Trump.

    Congress faces daunting challenges, risking a federal shutdown at home if it fails to fund the government and fielding Biden’s requests for aid to help Ukraine and Israel in the wars abroad.


    The original article contains 1,007 words, the summary contains 224 words. Saved 78%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!