I’ve never done this, so I’m not really sure what to expect. I won’t know anyone but it’s organized by my local PSL chapter so I assume they will be welcoming. Can anyone give any advice?

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    Bring some water bottles with flip caps for drinking and maybe for washing out your eyes (the kind you can spray water out of in a jet). Sunglasses and some n95 or KN95 masks. Cash for food. And lots of snacks like cliff bars, etc.

    Also don’t get kettled.

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      Bring several varying warmth layers of nondescript clothes to wear, avoiding logos. And shoes that are comfortable for wearing all day like hiking boots, plus wool socks. And gloves if it will be cold.

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    • Use only cash.
    • Touch base with organizers early and use a buddy system. Find someone that will be your check-in buddy. Have a plan for where to meet if you get separated and no dispersal point is available or has been announced.
    • Put your phone in airplane mode and then turn it off (hope is that if you do turn it on, it will boot in airplane mode). Your phone is a tracking device uniquely identifiable to you. It will reveal your location just sitting in your pocket doing nothing. ISPs routinely provide data to cops without a warrant.
    • Wear a mask any time related to an action.
    • Bring nondescript clothes so you can blend in during actions. Make those clothes something you can wear comfortably for long periods and can run in if necessary.
    • Bring bottles of water in a backpack just in case. Good for drinking, good for teargas.
    • If there’s a decent chance of conflict with riot cops, consider bringing a helmet and ballistic eye protection.
    • If you have the option, have a plan for bail. Memorize the number of someone that can pay your bail. Talk to organizers about their bail plan.
    • If there are confrontation, either deescalate or remove yourself from the area. If you don’t have any deescalation training, try to get some, it’s very helpful.
    • Share this info with others.
    • Don’t get too worried if you can’t do some of the things I mentioned perfectly. The goal is to decrease your tracking footprint, you won’t be able to eliminate it. The phone, mask, and clothing recs are the most important.

    Do not expect anyone else to be this serious about infosec. Western leftists aren’t ready for the violence, they still haven’t learned the lessons that will be taught by the state over the next few decades. As such, you’ll need to be proactive around certain things, especially not using your phone. Folks will try to do all of their coordination using their smartphones day-of and on-site and think that using Signal without disappearing messages and with a FaceID phone is enough (lol). You’ll want to work around this by having solid location and time info for all actions. A backup option if you need to use your phone for the internet is to use WiFi in airplane mode. You can actually still be location-tracked this way but it’s harder.

    Eventually you may want to get a dedicated no-SIM security phone that’s only good for WiFi, like with Calyx and some alternative way to use Signal. But that takes a lot of work and is more of a “next time” kind of thing.

    Most likely you’ll be in a pretty uneventful set of protests where the most action comes from Zionist fascist (but I repeat myself) agitators trying to get social media of angry people and to goad people into throwing a punch and getting arrested. If the organizers run good security you won’t have to worry about this.

    Solidarity!

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      goad people into throwing a punch and getting arrested.

      Oh yeah, this is good advice. Remember anyone trying to piss you off is doing it because they aren’t shit unless you throw the first punch. Just laugh at them. Don’t engage with their arguments, don’t try to convince them or anything. They’re not interested. I like to make fun of their clothes, or be achingly polite and talk to them about things that are totally unrelated. Makes them look foolish and it’s confusing

      . Help your comrades if it looks like they’re getting close to letting their anger get to them. Having a calming voice can help people step back. Be sympathetic - I try to remind people that beating this one guy up might feel good, but it’s not going to help the cause. I also tell people that if they get arrested they won’t be able to help their comrades. The emphasis is not “You’re causing a problem” but rather “Bro we need you out here so you can help people. We need your passion and drive, and you can do the most good on the outside.” Appealing to people’s desire to help and defend their comrades can help them get some perspective and cool down.

      I find a lot of the time it’s better to mock the enemy and make them look foolish instead of engaging with them. If your team is jeering at them and making fun of them it’s easier to stay cool and not get goaded in to a fight the fash can use for propaganda value.

      That said, if you have to fight, fight.

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        or be achingly polite and talk to them about things that are totally unrelated. Makes them look foolish and it’s confusing

        This sounds like a good opportunity to discuss Marxist thought in the public realm.

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    • Water. Water. Water. You must bring water. I would recommend at leats 2liters. If someone gets pepper sprayed use clean water to flush their eyes. Don’t use milk or any other liquids, just clean water. Remember to drink small amounts of water throughout the day instead of waiting until you’re thirsty

    • bring some snacks. candy without peanuts, meal bars, whatever. You need salts and sugar to maintain electrolyte balance.

    • First aid stuff. Gauze pads and medical tape are good because they scale with injuries. It’s probably too late for a tourniquet but add one to your kit when you can. Get some hard candy in case someone has blood sugar issues. Get some sharpies so you can write important information on someone’s body if they’re injured. Get blue medical gloves, preferably nitrile because people have latex allergies. Get a pair of medical safety shears for removing clothing so injuries can be assessed. get a small role of duct tape. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know how to use these things; Someone nearby might have first aid training but not have the equipment they need. If that happens you can give them your kit. I actually had this happen, once; I was the first person on the scene, and the second person was a registered nurse, but she didn’t have first aid supplies. I was able to hand her my kit so she could do her job better. Worst case scenario, you can always apply pressure to a wound and wait for someone who knows more.

    • Watch a Stop the Bleed class online, then take a real one when you can. Any first aid training or certs you can pick up are valuable

    • good socks and sturdy close toed shoes

    • Toilet paper. You don’t necessarily need a whole roll, but it’s a good idea to have if you get kettled. Likewise, bring some wet-wipes

    • A hat is a good idea both to protect your identity and protect you from the sun. Try to get one without a logo or distinguishing features

    • safety glasses are a good thing to have if you expect to face chuds, as they like to use pepper spray and it might provide some protection.

    • Having some emergency ponchos and emergency mylar blankets can be helpful. You can use them for all kinds of things in a pinch, and they weigh almost nothing

    • DO NOT CARRY ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A WEAPON. It almost certainly will not be helpful to have, and if you’re arrested it will make your life harder.

    • In addition to that, The cops may try to use any supplies you carry to pin you with bs charges. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it, but it’s a risk and you should be aware of it.

    Some extra notes

    • Look for and learn to recognize street medics. They’re people who usually have some kind of first aid training, ranging from boy scouts to surgeons. If someone gets hurt you need to find a street medic and help them get to the scene ASAP. Police will often refuse to let EMTs and ambulances in to the area. You can recognize street medics by looking for people with backpacks that are either bright red, or have red crosses made from tape on them. A lot of them will be wearing bike helmets with red tape on them.

    • You can’t spot undercover cops. Lots of people think they can, and they’re wrong. There’s no reliable way to spot undercovers. You might spot a really obvious one but never recognize a guy who is blending right next to him. It’s just part of the game that you have to accept

    • Avoid doing crimes unless it’s important

    • If someone gets knocked over help get them on their feet ASAP. Being knocked over in a crowd is extremely dangerous. Either grab them and help people haul them on to their feet, or try to protect them from the crowd while other people get them up. If you go down you’ve got two options - Either curl in to a ball and protect your head with your arms, or reach your hands up so people can grab you and haul you on to your feet. Basically - Obey mosh pit rules.

    • Avoid taking pictures with anyone’s face in them

    • If you see something really sketchy try to find an organizer or security person and tell them. People carrying guns, people taking pictures of people’s faces, shit like that. If you’re not sure ask your comrades for advice.

    • If things get dicey stay with your comrades as much as possible. If someone looks like they know what they’re doing, and you feel good about them, stick with them and try to help them when possible. Likewise, if you’ve got a bad feeling about someone, assess whether you need to move away.

    • Be kind and look after your comrades. You got this! rat-salute-2

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    A camera that’s not built in to a phone, and a faraday bag for your phone.

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        turning it off probably is good enough for most devices, but its easy to bump the button and turn it back on. DIY faraday bag is possible but not as trivial as it sounds. You’d want to test it carefully and make sure it wasn’t getting signal in the bag, probably by doing things like calling it or locating it from a computer with “find my”. There are probably more ways to test but that’s a start

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        Lining a bag with foil won’t make things worse, but it’s not sufficient on it’s own. Make sure your phone is put in airplane mode with all radios turned off, then turn the phone off. We don’t fully know what kind of information snooping tools the security forces have right now so it’s better to be paranoid/precautionary principle.

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        evidence of malfeasance by police or counterprotesters?

        Idk tho. seems like a mixed message. Ideally you’d plan what sort of actions you will or won’t take in advance and bring what’s appropriate. If your plan is to stay legal, bringing a camera to film the potentially violent response from the state and counterprotesters could be a good move. If you’re planning to bash the fash or join a riot or engage in some extralegal direct action, then any photos/videos, especially on a regular camera with no capacity for encryption, are much more likely to be used as evidence against you and your comrades than the other way around.

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          If your plan is to stay legal, bringing a camera to film the potentially violent response from the state and counterprotesters could be a good move.

          Yeah, this was my perspective in my earlier comment. I think we all need to be journalists (in the pure job-description sense) these days. Anyone on a corporate payroll won’t help us, as Upton Sinclair famously said. When the persecutions happen we only have ourselves to be witnesses. Social media is colossally flawed in so many ways, but at least it’s accessible to the masses and difficult to moderate. Truth can slip through to millions easily. And for now it’s still relatively easy to throw up a basic blog website.

          You’re certainly right about not bringing a camera when doing potentially self-incriminating things. I mean, I’m not passing judgment, people do what they do in the heat of the moment, things happen, human psychology, fight or flight, etc etc etc. But if a comrade was to accidentally throw a molotov into a big corporate fast food franchise that treats both employees and source animals with equal empathy, then that person would be more likely to avoid complications if everyone knew to just not bring cameras beforehand.