• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        I think many of the socialist states of Asia and Eastern Europe are or were ridiculously corrupt. How democratic those were is of course questionable.

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          8 months ago

          There was never socialism in Asia or Eastern Europe. At no point have the workers seized the means of production and had a dictatorship of the proletariat.

          • rchive@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either.