• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    People can do multiple things. Would you rather a Republican controlled Senate, with a Republican senator taking cash from the coal industry?

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      1 year ago

      What’s the difference? Joe Manchin still held up legislation, and threw tantrums when he didn’t get his way. Not everybody votes Democrat just because there’s a D next to the name. Hell, if we got rid of first past the post, I’d never vote for a Democrat again. Wouldn’t vote Republican either, just to be clear.

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        The difference is being able to confirm judicial appointments. We have Gorsuch on the SC because the Republicans had a majority in the Senate and wouldn’t confirm Obama’s appointment.

        Manchin is a coal dust covered piece of shit, but he’s the least shitty senator WV will probably ever send to the Senate. Don’t let perfection be the enemy of progress not going backwards.

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          We have Gorsuch on the SC because the Republicans had a majority in the Senate and wouldn’t confirm Obama’s appointment.

          Manchin voted to confirm Gorsuch.

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            Yes. Which is one of the many reasons why he’s a piece of shit.

            The point I was making is that not having a Democratic majority in the Senate allows the Republicans to pull stupid shit like not confirming appointments, not letting any bills be voted on, and by letting a turtle run the Senate. When we lose Manchin, we’ll be in a situation where the Republicans could prevent any judicial confirmations from happening, assuming they pick up 2 seats.

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        Yet a lot of legislation still passed. Inflation reduction act, while imperfect is still the most significant climate change legislation America has produced. I cannot imagine a Republican senator would do that.

        Biden’s confirmed a boatload of judges with Manchin’s help (the importance of confirming judges should be obvious at this point.)

        Was it ideal? Nope. Was it better than having 50 Republican senators? Yes oh God yes.

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      If they vote for a republican then so be it. Better than a Republican in Dem’s clothes. Besides, maybe when people have an option that is better than “shitty fake dem” versus fascist, maybe they’ll surprise you.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, if people under 40 voted at the same rate that people over 40 did, Dems would have a super majority and be able to amend all sorts of stuff in the constitution…