The criminals here are the billionaires who created a system where you friend has to work TWO minimum wages job to barely get by. Don’t defend a broken system, eat the billionaires!
And this is relevant because your past experiences and current context are both universal and everybody’s life is the same as yours, so therefore if you don’t do X, then anybody who does is stupid, ugly, bad and wrong. Because if you wouldn’t do it, then literally nobody can have any reason for it
I’ve had stuff stolen but that didn’t make me think my experiences are universal. You seem to be completely unable to think outside of your own context
Yeah? What’s my privilge here? Acknowleding that having their car stolen can be an economic death sentence for some people? This man could’ve stolen anything, from a big store, from some rich guy, etc. Instead he chose to steal a car from a family that might very well depend heavily on it.
You people are so deep into your eat the rich narrative, that you completely ignore the poor/average ones. If that isn’t ironic, I don’t see what is.
why? it’s a conversation about the impact of theft. Theft is wrong and should be punished and shunned, but the only real solution is to attack the causes of crime, otherwise it’s whack-a-mole.
Why is it a bizarre take to say “instead of just plugging the hole the water is coming through, we should also fix leaking pipes causing the flood?”
(note italics to denote caring about several things at the same time, I think its weirder to assume crime has only one cause and one solution: the perpetrator)
Sometimes? I mean on this server’s local it’s not so bad. But on lemmy.world’s default? Ho. Le. Phuc. I can’t imagine being a young teen and not having the wisdom I do to discern what’s really happening in the world and just going along with the memes. Talk about a ruined person.
Sounds like you don’t want to work hard. Billionaires got to where they are through hard work. They may have started out as aillionaire, but the vast majority of them worked hard and now own the world because everyone else was too lazy to do the same.
What gets me about this “hard work” mythos is just how dumb it is. It just doesn’t hold up to even 3 seconds of critical thought. Seriously though, out of 7 to 8 billion humans on Earth, only a few hundred had the gumption to become billionaires? The option is just laying there, out in the open, and anybody could pick it up, just decide one day to become a billionaire, and then do it? Despite all those people jumping into grind/hustle culture, who are working very hard, yet for some reason have decided not to become billionaires? And those who grind/hustle, and are not financially successful at all, have they chosen that path for, I dunno, love of the game? Or as performance art?
Can we not think of any material or structural reasons why a child born in, say, Soweto in 1971 hasn’t ascended to be the world’s richest man, while a child born nearby in Pretoria has?
The criminals here are the billionaires who created a system where you friend has to work TWO minimum wages job to barely get by. Don’t defend a broken system, eat the billionaires!
The criminals are also the car thieves, making their own class struggle more.
Totally, he should of stole a nicer car SMH
Vote YES for banning immobilizers in luxury vehicles so they are easier to steal
Unironically this
If he steals an expensive car it’s alright though
I’ve stuggeled plenty in my life as well, yet I’ve never stolen anything. I hate billionaires and I also hate car thiefs. Don’t be a douche.
What I think he’s saying by that is that we can keep having car tiefs arrested but they are the simptom not the problem.
So or we keep bashing on the consequence or we go after it’s origins
Exactly 💯
And this is relevant because your past experiences and current context are both universal and everybody’s life is the same as yours, so therefore if you don’t do X, then anybody who does is stupid, ugly, bad and wrong. Because if you wouldn’t do it, then literally nobody can have any reason for it
You obviously haven’t had anything valuable stolen from you. But nice condescending tone, dude!
I’ve had stuff stolen but that didn’t make me think my experiences are universal. You seem to be completely unable to think outside of your own context
I am not out here trying to rationalize theft, mate. Check your privilege, bud.
“Check your privilege”, lul. Guess you don’t see the irony
Yeah? What’s my privilge here? Acknowleding that having their car stolen can be an economic death sentence for some people? This man could’ve stolen anything, from a big store, from some rich guy, etc. Instead he chose to steal a car from a family that might very well depend heavily on it.
You people are so deep into your eat the rich narrative, that you completely ignore the poor/average ones. If that isn’t ironic, I don’t see what is.
Sometimes Lemmy has the bizarrest of takes
why? it’s a conversation about the impact of theft. Theft is wrong and should be punished and shunned, but the only real solution is to attack the causes of crime, otherwise it’s whack-a-mole.
Why is it a bizarre take to say “instead of just plugging the hole the water is coming through, we should also fix leaking pipes causing the flood?”
(note italics to denote caring about several things at the same time, I think its weirder to assume crime has only one cause and one solution: the perpetrator)
They’re not defending the system by saying car thieves suck, you nut
These people must be clinically insane, man. It’s crazy what you read on here.
Sometimes? I mean on this server’s local it’s not so bad. But on lemmy.world’s default? Ho. Le. Phuc. I can’t imagine being a young teen and not having the wisdom I do to discern what’s really happening in the world and just going along with the memes. Talk about a ruined person.
Sounds like you don’t want to work hard. Billionaires got to where they are through hard work. They may have started out as aillionaire, but the vast majority of them worked hard and now own the world because everyone else was too lazy to do the same.
What gets me about this “hard work” mythos is just how dumb it is. It just doesn’t hold up to even 3 seconds of critical thought. Seriously though, out of 7 to 8 billion humans on Earth, only a few hundred had the gumption to become billionaires? The option is just laying there, out in the open, and anybody could pick it up, just decide one day to become a billionaire, and then do it? Despite all those people jumping into grind/hustle culture, who are working very hard, yet for some reason have decided not to become billionaires? And those who grind/hustle, and are not financially successful at all, have they chosen that path for, I dunno, love of the game? Or as performance art?
Can we not think of any material or structural reasons why a child born in, say, Soweto in 1971 hasn’t ascended to be the world’s richest man, while a child born nearby in Pretoria has?