• NationalGeometric@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I’d like to see the breakdown between corporate and tech support on some of these.

    All call center jobs suck. Are those low tenured numbers averaged in?

  • HereIAmSendMe68@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I may or may not have worked for Apple. After just a few months I was approached my a major tech company that was pretty soft and they offered me about 75% more with knowing absolutely 0 about me other than knowing I was capable of getting a job for Apple.

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    10 months ago

    People saying they love changing jobs often. So they shouldn’t be surprised about retention rates. Isn’t that what every one’s says to do? Not stay at the same company for too long?

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think most people love changing jobs often, it’s just the only way to get ahead in the job market that companies like Apple have created. On the other hand, big companies like Apple would love for you to work there for life so they can underpay you and take advantage of you but that’s exactly the reason that makes people job hop every few years. Corporations want to have their cake and eat it too, and employees aren’t willing to make sacrifices that allow their corporate overlords to take advantage of them.

      • KingLuis@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        I guess it depends on the company. I’m paid competitively in my company and with good pension. Good performance puts me on the promotion route.
        Been there 14 years. Moved up positions 4 times with plenty of training in other fields.

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    10 months ago

    Retail is a revolving door. They’re never going to pay people enough or invest in their development to keep them engaged.

    For non-retail, a lot of people who know to play the game put a 2-3 years somewhere build their resume up so they can leave and level up elsewhere.

  • Dan-in-Va@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This study doesn’t indicate whether people take other jobs within the company (move around) which would be leaving a position.

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    10 months ago

    I didn’t read if they gave reasons but having Apple on your resume is a bump when you’re moving on and up.

    Just from personal experience.

  • DigiQuip@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    What a lot of people might not realize is that a significant number of people work at these tech giants to boost their resume and then they jump ship to company with a much better work life balance, maybe to join a startup, or to do something they’re more passionate about.

    This is known at Apple, Google, Meta, etc. and so those companies have adjusted their expectations. I did a stint at a prestigious Fortune 500 and their director position was much lower on the org chart than you might expect but the work is grueling. When you left the company had your back and you’re immediately more attractive when on a job hunt.

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    10 months ago

    Apple Retail in Italy is fucking toxic. Stay away from that nightmare if you can.

  • promethazoid@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This is highly contingent on team and role. Apple and Amazon have a lot of call centers/ customer service positions relative to a company like Google which doesn’t really need to support as many products.

  • PlasticBreakfast6918@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This data may be skewed. Tech companies grew substantially during Covid which would greatly reduce the average tenure.

    Amazon for example grew from something like 900k worldwide employees to 1.2M which is a 33% in less than two years.