Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis. 

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country’s population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People’s Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

“Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children,” Putin said.

  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    but you see how this is exactly what eugenicists would do, right? create propaganda to discourage undesirables from procreating and create ineffective propaganda for their preferred demographic group. the intention doesn’t matter, to me. it’s all eugenicist propaganda as far as I’m concerned.

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      You just love that word, “propaganda”, but where did “undesirables” come in? I never mentioned targeting anyone, or even running an information campaign at all. I’m pointing out the reality that fewer people would be better. You can’t argue against that, so you make a bunch of ridiculous assumptions and attack those.

      I think that when this topic is discussed, people should be honest and rational about it. You clearly don’t.

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          Even as slippery slope arguments go, this is truly pathetic.

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            are you suggesting I’m too vigilant against eugenicist propaganda? better than laying the groundwork for a genocide, I think.

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          Then I gotta wonder why you haven’t. All you’ve claimed is that there are other options. All things being equal, a world with fewer people needs fewer resources. If we get the whole world on solar, that will still be true. If we get everyone to give up meat, it will still be true. If we stop polluting our waterways it will still be true. You have not argued against that, and you can’t do so in any rational way.

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        I never mentioned targeting anyone, or even running an information campaign at all.

        you ARE running an information campaign.

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          No YOU are running an information campaign. Fuck this is getting dumb.

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        I think that when this topic is discussed, people should be honest and rational about it. You clearly don’t.

        i think calling your advocacy propaganda rubbed you the wrong way, and you can’t see what i’m saying.

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          I can see what your saying just fine. I’m not the one who’s unhinged here.