“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”

That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.

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    Punishing the lesser of two evils by rewarding the greater evil isn’t going to lead in the direction you want it to.

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      Just it will, it it makes the lesser of two evils to turn to be actually good, instead of lesser evil.

      Ones power in democracy isn’t in given ones vote It is in withholding it. Your vote is your hostage and the political party is the hostage negotiator trying to get it from you.

      If you give away the hostage before the bargaining even begins, you have no leverage. You are nobody, non-entity. Your opinion and your interests don’t matter. Since you always release the hostage, before the negotiating starts.

      At some point in comparative lesser of two evils must come the moment of “in absolute measures the evil is too much, even the lesser evil”. Withold vote and the egotistical lesser evil, who doesn’t want to lose to the greater evil has to listen to your concerns and turn course.

      Until the first moment you withhold vote, they can happily slide in behind the greater evil just two microns behind them in the evil slide.

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        I’ll take those two microns over actively chasing fascism.

        But we all know it’s a whole fucking lot more than two microns.

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      Rewarding genocide with a vote will ensure genocide.

      You support genocide if you vote Biden.

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        The last 4 years of a GOP president saw 3 supreme court seats that will cause brutal ripples though our country for 20-30yrs at least.

        Thinking that “whatever happens will only last 4 yrs” is either wildly stupid or intentionally misleading.

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        How well has that worked? Republicans won major victories in 2010 and 2016. Did we get a huge leftward swing between 2010-2016? Have Republicans been forced to moderate themselves since 2020?

        There’s a key mistake in your thinking. If Democrats lose, Republicans win, and when they win, they feel emboldened to push us as far right as possible. When they won in 2016, they took it as confirmation that Trumpism and fascism was the way to go.

        Losing elections has never worked to push Democrats to the left. It’s probably done the opposite actually, since Republican victories pull the country the other way.

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        The problem is that the Democratic Party interprets all losses as evidence that they haven’t yet moved far enough to the right, and all wins as evidence that moving to the right works.

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          They’ve been running on Clinton’s “third way” for three decades.

          AOC and the squad are finally starting to turn it around.

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            They’ve been running on Clinton’s “third way” for three decades.

            And will continue doing so, win or lose, until elections are no longer a thing.

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        Yeah, I get what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that if the farther right candidate wins, the next nominee is going to move right because that’s where the voters are.

        And that’s ignoring the rest of the comments about if there will even be another election.

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        So they will help put someone in power that will remove fair elections? That makes no sense as a long term plan, imo it’s more likely they are trying to push democrats a certain way but are not truly entertaining the notion of voting for a fascist.