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four hour harrisbomberguy video dropped

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    63·
    11 months ago

    Half of the comments on this thread is people claiming that they’re too important and busy to watch the video, while simultaneously taking the time to comment about how they didn’t watch the video.

    Like who is this for?

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.netEnglish
      41·
      11 months ago

      Idk why people get so weird about media length. You don’t like movies or videos that are too long? Okay, that’s a totally legitimate preference, but just don’t watch it then?

      If you wanna have a discussion about how certain market trends are encouraging creators to make their content longer and longer and how thats detrimental to media as a whole fine. I don’t get complaining about individual creators or pieces of media though, long media can be good, idk if anyone else has seen 1900.

      • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        23·
        11 months ago

        But why have a thoughtful analysis of the material pressures on internet content creation, when you can be a heckin’ big chungus lefto, who bitches about it on the Bear website, cuz you don’t like a guy for being a lib? Upbears to the left!

        Fr y’all, watch the video as background noise. If you can listen to theory audiobooks, you can do this.

        Or, better yet, take the time you would’ve spent watch the video essay, or bitching about its length online, to read Combat Liberalism.

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.netEnglish
          20·
          11 months ago

          cuz you don’t like a guy for being a lib?

          This is my issue. Most people here complaining about the length probably just think HBomber is a douche. Which is fine, but just say that rather than use the fact his videos are long as a sidewind to bitch about him. Most of you would probably watch an equally long video with glee of it was by someone you like on a topic you care about.

  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    61·
    11 months ago

    Can’t wait for James Somerton to come back and pivot towards right-wing discourse, and complain about cancel culture like a good grifter who knows where the money is. He’d fit right in there with his misogyny and casual denial of other people’s sexuality and gender identity.

  • Moss [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    59·
    11 months ago

    Laughing at the people raging at this being four hours long, knowing that I already watched it all this morning and am currently listening to the 10 hour Wendigoon conspiracy iceburg video

  • LeninsWorldTour [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    52·
    11 months ago

    y’all just don’t watch these videos while doing chores or playing minecraft or something? cmon this is prime slop content to listen to while doing something else. Not to mention listening to this type of stuff while drawing too like brow

  • culpritus [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    51·
    11 months ago

    Made it through mostly, skipped a bit of the earlier segments. The video is good, but overly long because it has to show the receipts, so many receipts. I think the length also conveys the increasingly paranoid feeling HBG was experiencing while working on this video. What started as a simple concept eventually grew into a evidential flood and potential drama storm. It’s mostly a PSA of ‘Do Not Do This’, ‘this is the proper way to cite your sources’, etc.

    • mustGo [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      23·
      11 months ago

      Yeah, I personally feel like 90% could be cut. The economics, copyright discussion, psychology and behavior patterns, what the original authors think about it, are way more interesting than seeing 1h of detailed examples of how this one person used an article/documentary/book nearly 1:1 as their scripts. That could be like 3 minutes each for me.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    45·
    11 months ago

    Harrisbomberguy, I known you’re reading this. Before shooting trim your beard or have longer hair or film at a 3/4 view. The line near the ears where it starts being beard and is twice as long is all I can see when you hare straight on to the camera talking.

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    43·
    11 months ago

    Ok I didn’t think I’d watch it all in one sitting, but I watched it all in one sitting.

    What the actual fuck, you’d think after a certain number of plagiarisms, you’d have enough Patreon and ad money to hire actual writers so you don’t get your entire career nuked from orbit when people simply Bing search your words with “” marks around and see it’s from a 2013 blogosphere post.

    • Dickey_Butts [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      Basically every youtube star is just regurgitating trash for treasure. Hasan is no different from asmongold is no different from XQC is no different from destiny. They are all paid far too much for contributing literally nothing besides “reactions”.

  • Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.netEnglish
    38·
    11 months ago

    The second I saw the time stamp I knew 90% of the comment here would be complaining about the length. The collective time we all spend commenting about the length is probably longer than the video.

  • Gorillatactics [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    37·
    11 months ago

    “at one point people decided I was breadtube, but also that they hated me for being included in that category”

    Lmao. ~~~ I lost the timestamp and the direct quote but its about plagiarism so its all the more appropriate. ~~~

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    34·
    11 months ago

    I’m really kinda confused about who is watching 4 hours of one person on a topic like youtube plagiarism without getting bored.

    Do people watch these on 2x speed? 3x? Just download the audio and listen like it’s a podcast or lecture?

    Who is this for? What is the purpose or goal of it? Does anyone truly give a shit about plagiarism on youtube other than people making youtube content?

    Real questions. Not rhetorical or irony poisoned. I do not get it.

    • Wakmrow [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      35·
      11 months ago

      No 2x speed, happily lounging around on a lazy Sunday watching a well researched lecture on a topic that is made interesting by writing and delivery. Bringing the plagiarism back to how this specific instance is damaging the queer community brought it home for me. I like seeing people trying to do some good in the world. Bomber guy and Shawn skull guy are sometimes hard to get invested into the story but usually it’s pretty great. I will admit I forwarded through some of the examples of the plagiarism because I don’t really care about it, the analysis and discussion are more interesting.

      I want to like documentaries but usually I don’t find them going in depth enough into a topic. Long form deep dives into a weird topic is oddly fascinating to me. I also listen to podcasts a lot so this is similar content.

      That being said, I don’t know how weird I am but I do not like being advertised at so I don’t watch any cable tv, I don’t really like movies or shows, I don’t like Western propaganda in my entertainment so that rules out almost everything. So, I don’t know, this is about the length of a football game and for me a replacement of that.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      30·
      11 months ago

      Videos like this for a lot of people are used as background noise when they’re doing something like cleaning or working. I’ve used these types of videos for a slower day when I have to clean out my place for an extended period of time. I think that’s what most people use Twitch streams and podcasts for.

      Short-form content can be a pain because you’re going to have to switch is up every ten minutes or so while something like this will help you stay occupied for long enough to get what you need done.

      • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        22·
        11 months ago

        currently 2.5 hours in trying to clean my apartment.

        Yep

        Edit: finished the video. It was good. Hbomb is a good guy with principles. hexbear needs to chill occasionally. Even he says he’s not doing a drama vid like this again.

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      11 months ago

      I enjoy longform content when its made by someone who’s entertaining and/or insightful. Hbomb in particular is both funny and fun to watch slowly become more and more unhinged as he dives deeper in a rabbit hole. But its definitely not for everyone. Also most of these types of videos could be way shorter if they were just more focused.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      11 months ago

      Does anyone truly give a shit about plagiarism on youtube other than people making youtube content?

      I’m gonna pick up this here because having watched and liked it (allthough to be fair I’m a sucker for the guy, hits just right) there is a salient point here in Youtube being amongst the top media consumer things, especially for younger people, and the associated problems that come with that.

      That is to say, to discount the effects a plattform like Youtube has entirely as E-Drama seems weird. The video isn’t really about shitfights between people with nothing to say, it’s about a problem and why it’s a problem

    • CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      11 months ago

      I’m mostly in the “listen like it’s a podcast or lecture” camp. During this video I’ve: played satisfactory, played factorio, done prep for a TTRPG campaign I wanna run, and walked my dog.

      This one’s below par for HBomb. Like I’ve re-listened to his early stuff dunking on Sargon and The Golden One dozens of times, I’ve re-listened to some of his more recent ones like Flat Earth two or three times, but this one will probably be a skip for me in the future. He would benefit from giving himself a hard per-upload time limit and not exceeding it no matter what.

    • Torenico [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      19·
      11 months ago

      I’ve listened to these long ass videos before, but I must really like the video itself, the message, the topic and the person(s) doing it. I do it mostly when playing videogames that don’t require a lot of attention, like Rimworld, EUIV or a football (soccer) game where I can just kinda disconnect, listen and play or have the ability to pause if needed. After all, it’s a video, you can take your time watching it, you don’t have to watch all four hours of it at once, but rather bit by bit.

      And yeah, there’s people who really like a well researched video on youtube plagiarism, maybe they like the topic or maybe they like this guy in particular so much they’re willing to listen to him for hours, and in this case, Hbomberguy is super likeable. I’ve had people in Uni willing to listen to a professor speak about I don’t know, early Argentinian history for HOURS all while sitting in one place and doing nothing but listening, I can really see people pulling through videos of 4 to 6 hours talking about random shit as well. There’s people for everything!

    • CommanderCloon@lemmy.mlEnglish
      17·
      11 months ago

      I like longform content that gets deep into the topic. I’ve watched the 20h Skyrim analysis – not as background, although admittedly while playing slow paced chill games or in between game matches, and I’d watch videos as long as this as long as the topic is interesting and the analysis worthwile

    • Anxious_Anarchist [they/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      15·
      11 months ago

      Youtube plagiarism is definitely something everyone should care about, as I can say that I’ve made the mistake of trusting Somerton’s videos and ended up spreading his misinformation.

    • bigboopballs [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      14·
      11 months ago

      Just download the audio and listen like it’s a podcast or lecture?

      just let it play in the background and listen like it’s a podcast

    • horse_called_proletariat [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      Do people watch these on 2x speed? 3x? Just download the audio and listen like it’s a podcast or lecture?

      honestly i don’t have time for it anymore but when I did watch breadtube and breadtube adjacent twitch people I’d get the vods, fast foward past the BS and then watch the rest of it on anywhere from 2.5x to 5x depending. i don’t even have time for that anymore. i will however watch other slop for stress relief purposes and self-soothing when I need to, i just have better sources for political analysis these days that is proletarian and not the small business orientation most these people belong to

  • zan [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    34·
    11 months ago

    I shared with my wife a video on transmaxxing yesterday and today she wanted more takedowns of transmaxxing content and we both desperately wanted a measured response to transmaxxing this afternoon.

    She saw this within 15 mins of upload and we are now 90 minutes in. This is quite the monkey paw curling.